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Week 6 [20-26.04.2020] Dating algorithm


Most of my friends say that finding a soulmate in today's world could be very hard or even impossible. There are many dating sites on the market, but are they helpful? The video below shows a woman who decided to support dating sites with statistics.





1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

Comments

Answering your questions:

1. To be honest, using artificial intelligence to match a person to a date is a bit strange. However, on the other hand, I think it can be an interesting experience, e.g. by drawing conclusions.

2. I have mixed feelings, on the one hand, online dates are more convenient and faster, and on the other hand, starting a conversation on the street is more natural, so I prefer second option.
Yuliia Sauliak said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think the most important in her story was that she definitely knew which kind of man she wants, she had a basic criteria and the most important was to find the person who matches these requirements and would sincerely like her back. Firstly, I felt like this algorithm she is describing is crazy, however if she managed to find the right person and build a strong relationship, so why not.
2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I personally don`t like online dating and have never used any dating applications/websites. I don`t find it appropriate for myself. I prefer spontanous meetings as it seems more romantic for me rather than sitting and hunting for men when all of you exactly know what is the purpose of this communication. May be I am an old school girl:)
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think that with the help of machine algorithms you can correctly match the person with whom you can potentially have a successful relationship. I think it could be a better solution than using Tinder or other applications especially for people who are looking for a person who wants to enter into a serious relationship. However, in my opinion, not all couples need to be perfectly matched to create a perfect relationship.

2. I don't think it should matter. If someone feels better meeting people online and then meeting them live then there is nothing wrong with it. Not all first meetings have to be romantic, some people are pragmatic and just want to meet someone - it doesn't matter how.
Ela said…
1. Love is not a predictable feeling, so I think it's impossible to create the right algorithms to find your other half. I believe that artificial intelligence has no chance in this matter. It often happens that we fall in love with people who do not match to the description of our ideal partner.

2. I've never had a need for online dating, so it's hard for me to compare it with regular dates. I find it more difficult to meet someone on the internet who would like to create a long-term relationship. I prefer traditional meetings.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
In my opinion algorithm can help to find the right person. I dont know how actually are they precise but if it convince someone he should at least try his luck.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I think in novadays it is really helpful tool to meet some new people because everyone have a lot of responsibilities and not too much time. I have tinder and i use it sometimes but i prefer to meet people in real life. I think it is better and maybe more interesting way than online dating.
Anastasiia Bida said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
Finding a partner with an algorithm may seem strange and unnatural for us. For example, some Black Mirror series about using computers and AI to search for a soul mate may seem absurd. But I don`t think it is not appropriate, just only because the woman from the video did it very well and now she looks happy.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?  
I don’t think that online dating is worse or better than starting a conversation "on the street". It is just different. And in my opinion, this is an excellent way in modern realities, when people spend a lot of time working while using personal transport to find a partner through some apps like Tinder or Badoo.
Andrzej Kawiak said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

British economists have calculated that dating apps add nearly £12 billion a year to the English economy and people who use them spend more money on dating than they do in the traditional way. I think the statistics are helpful. Anyway, such systems already exist. For example, hybrid recommendation systems. But not always such a system is good. This is a huge business I read a very interesting book. Its title is "Love Maniac" is a story about love in modern times. The reality where finding a partner is determined by complicated algorithms and recommendation systems of computer applications.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
However, I think it's easier to talk to someone in a chat room, or during a specific saturation, such as a wedding or university, than to approach someone on the street. For me such behavior would be embarrassing.
Hey, I like your answers, I have similar point of view and don't have any problem with meeting people this way.
It's strange until you find the right person. There are plenty of people who can't find soulmate in normal way, so I think it might be helpul.
Yes that is true, unfortunately most people usually don't know what they want and that's the biggest problem with this option.
Maybe we need old school people, who knows what would happen if everyone switched to the internet.
That's a nice point of view. I'm going to read this book. I hope it's not as frightening as one of black mirror episodes about modern times dating.
Yes, I totally agree with you, I tried both too. Maybe It feels more mature because most people using dating sites are immature and they use them because they are too shy to do it on the street.
I saw that black mirror episode. It was very creepy for me at the beginning, but as you sad, looking at the woman from the video can change the point of thinking.
I agree with your second thought time can be a big argument for such methods.
I think that love is a feeling which comes with time, that algorithm can help you find a person who has similar interests and who is a bit like you. Spending a lot of time with such a person gives a chance that you will fall in love.
MichalB said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

I don't know, nowadays people have learned to build false identities. Play over the internet. So searching for the "other half" by the identity matching algorithm is strange. What if the algorithm is badly written?

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

Of course it's better to come and talk. On the other hand, it's difficult to talk to someone who is far away and meet him. Only once there were no phones and people met. Maybe you have to leave something to chance in this range.
Pawel Bluszcz said…
1. I think that using such algorithms is very good and decent in today's world. If someone matched a person with similar interests, with a similar outlook and so he would be a better partner for us than a random person from the street. However, it should be remembered that it is said that love cannot be planned.

2. Personally, I think that's an average idea. I think that contacts made spontaneously and quite accidentally have more romance and give more joy or excitement for both of persons.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think it's overengineering. For some people, i think more technical or strict mind, it can be usefull but for most of the people it will be overkill. There is maybe too much psychology to create such an algorithm to match two people ideally.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I accept the idea of online dating but its not in my type. I wouldnt do online dating.

1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

There is something weird about it. I think that human relationships and their connection is much more complex than algorithm is capable to calculate. There are so many small things about people that they found attractive about one another that I can't consider matching by algorithm appropriate or effective.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

I don't think that starting a conversation on the street with a random person is normal either but it is definately more normal than meeting people online. I don't believe in such thing. I have never met anyone on the internet that would make me want to get to know himself/herself better.
Hello, here are my answers to your questions.

1. I am pretty sure that an algorithm for finding my perfect date would definitely mark my current boyfriend of three years as the worst possible match. We're total opposites, but that's exactly why we work out as a couple. I personally think that an algorithm - no matter how advanced - will never fully understand how complex human emotions work. I don't think that computers should be the ones picking our partners.

2. I believe that there's nothing wrong with online dating for a while, but before getting into a real relationship you should always meet the other person in real life. People tend to create online personalities and they turn out to be completely different people when met offline. And let's not forget that it's easy to manipulate how you look like with Photoshop so you can be heavily disappointed with someone else's looks when you finally meet them.
Maciek Olko said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
For sure sharing same values helps in relationship. And you can verify your finding before making a lifelong decision, so I don't see any inappropriate with trying to use an algorithm.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I think it may be sometimes more risky than starting a conversation "on the street". I haven't ever use online dating sites, but I imagine that some people there can hide their real intentions and are not always sincere.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
Modern date and meeting apps are really weird. I have never used them but I think it is stupid to
the algorithm searched for the right person for us. From what the algorithm observes, it cannot match character traits to
people, because everyone can lie that is nice and orderly right? :)

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
They certainly help shy people to start a conversation. We can say that they break the language barrier.
Kyrylo said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
Quite possibly. Algorythms have been helping in numerous ways in the everyday life of people, why they should not be effective in dating?

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I do not have that high level of expertise in this case. Statistics show that since emerging of the dating websites there has been slight increase in improving young people's private life, and many couples stated in the polls that they have met online. In fact, this percentage is ever growing, although interesting fact that the amount of young couples overall -- is not. It appears that people are just moving their life into online.
1 / If you want to find a real soulmate, and not just a cool guy with a snow-white smile and good appearance (although there are ones too). The thing is that the application has a simple and at the same time extremely complex algorithm. Sympathy is not a simple coincidence based on a swipe / like, everything is calculated with mathematical precision. It is very convenient, as my opinion.

2 / And it is true that recently people have been meeting online almost more often than in real life. And there are reasons for this: Internet communication saves us from many complexes and awkward situations. It also saves a lot of time and makes it possible to get to know not only Vasya from a neighboring yard (Vasya, nothing personal), but also people from other countries.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

I think online dating is just one of the ways to find the right person but I don’t think it's for everyone and the percentage is very low, so it all comes to who you are and what you are looking for.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

I don't think online dating is better than approaching someone in person but it requires some skills to start a conversation with someone you really don't know.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

If it works for people using it - yes, sure. Whatever floats your boat. This arrangements are certainly more appropriate than arranged marriages.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I think it's a matter of preference really - for both parties. Anyone can enjoy both, there isn't a superior way to start the relationship.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
It’s difficult to answer this question. I know people that found love on Internet and they are very happy. It’s all depend on luck and destiny. For some people who are shy it’s a good start point to find love. I think every method is good if helps find a second half. On Internet we can find people who will play with our emotions for fun. It’s dangerous but I think worth to try.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I think starting conversation „on the street” is a better option that online dating. On live we can see each other and it's difficult to deceive us. We can show our emotions and better react on situations. For people that are shy or don’t have time online dating could be a solution.
Bartosz Warda said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

I think that people will find this at least strange. But when it works out for some people then sure it is appropriate in my opinion. As long as they feel something to each other it is fine.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

That depends on the person. Some people usually extroverts will prefer straight forward method "on the street". But introvert people would prefer chatting online first just to "check the ground". In other words to learn about the other person more to be prepared for the real conversation in person.
Aleksander said…
1. I love to measure as many things in my life as it possible- my productivity, time spending at work, etc but even for me, trying to pierce the love into numbers.. seems truly strange. So coming back to your question- I don’t think it’s appropriate.
2. It’s not better but gives far more possibilities. For example- living in Poland could be hard to start a conversation with someone from Brasil. On the other hand- when it comes to real talk- that’s something completely different than chatting via an app.
Olga Bogdał said…
1. I don't know if it's appropriate but it sounds very interesting.

2. I'm not a fan of online dating and I also don't know anyone who met their 'soulmate' that way. I think it takes a lot of time to meet someone that way.
s18716 said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think if you have a great desire and need to find a partner, and you tried all the methods and could not find your person, then maybe you can use similar algorithms. I do not think this is forbidden in any way. You have the full moral right to use all legal methods. It seems to me that in the future such a question will not even arise. Everyone will find a soulmate in the Internet. I don’t know how good it is. I can not judge. Everything goes to this, the world is becoming digital and human relationships are not an exception. If someone can be happier thanks to such methods, I will be very happy.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
It seems to me that dating in real life is more interesting. This is due not only to romantic relationships, but also to meet a new person face to face seems more interesting in general. Many non-verbal things have a very large role, and indeed eye contact is also very important. But everyone has different tastes. Someone likes meeting on the Internet, because they feels more confident. So, as I said earlier, I can’t judge whether I will support any result if people will be happy.
1. It all depends on luck and coincidence. The lecturer was a mathematician, expert in calculations and algorithms. She could create her own men's rating system. Amy is a very structured and specific woman, as befits a mathematician. He knows exactly what type of man he is looking for. Unfortunately, most people looking for love do not have a specific type, they also can not calculate the appropriate algorithm, which is why I think that few people will use it.
2. I definitely prefer "face to face" contact, although it is much more stressful and embarrassing. Meetings on the so-called street allow for better and most importantly, for getting to know the person real. Online Dating is simple easy and fun, but you never quite know who is sitting on the other side. However, I don't cross out online dates. Look for the proven ones that give you a better chance of meeting the right person.
Grzegorz Rostek said…
1. I believe that it is appropiate, but i also think that this way of looking for your soulmate is good only for really picky people.

2. I think that online dating is worse than starting a conversation "on the street". As i said earlier, i think this way of dating (online) is for people that are picky, and by being picky you can miss out on really wonderful people.
Angelika Dutt said…
I think the criteria used in the algorithm may be useful for looking for the other half, but I think it's impossible to program the chemistry and love that connects two people. Our grandparents or parents didn't have the Internet and Tinder, and somehow they all found someone and there were a lot fewer lonely people than now. Just go out to people, meet new people and talk to them.

I'm not a fan of online dating, and I would never create a profile on a dating site myself, but I know a lot of couples who started out like this and are happy together. But unfortunately, I think that we focus too much on the look on these websites and not enough on the person inside.
Roman Burlaka said…
1. Everything is appropriate until we have some reasons that it isn't. For example, I don't know any of them, so why not? We also use algorithms on our own in real life, we just don't call them so, they can be more or less rational but they exist. Automating processes or their parts that we do in everyday life is a goal of an IT sphere.

2. Conversation in real life can be much more interesting than in a date application, but the main advantage of such programs is that everyone there is looking for some relationship so there is less misunderstanding than in a real life.
Than you will know after first date ;)
I agree with you when it comes to distance it is a great help.

From what I heard from grandparents, it wasn't usually their choice.
Maybe that's why it worked better then.
In most cases it is more romantic, but for some people it's not exciting it's frightening.
Yes I don't think it could work with everybody. People need more time to
get used to such standards.
1. It probably is useful. Otherwise people wouldn't use dating apps. I see nothing appropriate in it if it works for someone. You can't tell people how to find the loved one, how to meet people etc.

2. I have never done such things so it would be hard to answer this question. Despite this fact I think that meeting person in real life is more valuable because we behave very differently outside of the internet world. It is harder to pretend and easier to show you real emotion.
Zygmunt Z said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

No, to be honest it’s unnatural to me. I am aware that many applications use AI for finding “the best match” for you but I don’t think I would trust it fully. I could meet this person if we enjoy talking to each other but even then I wouldn’t say that I am grateful to AI for helping me with finding a date. In the end it’s up to us if we match or not, I think and AI has nothing to do with that.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

I am aware that the number of dating apps is increasing and the amount can be overwhelming. It can be a lucrative business if you implement in-app payments. Most importantly it is easier for everyone to type and text rather than speak in person. I am not a huge fan of it because people lose the ability to speak freely in real life and move their lives into a virtual one.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
It hardly depends on luck and an algotithm. If it would be said that it works perfectly right now, over next week or month there could be a better version that we have today.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
It is not a matter of fact is it better, the goal is the same. By using online dating we can "date" more people than meeting them "on the street", basically because right now everyone is addicted to phone and people hardly try to meet someone offline to date, mostly they have other reason or they already meet someone by their friends.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
Why not, finding the right person with an algorithm or using matchmaker this is as good as anything else that people invented so far to find someone special for them beside this algorithm help you find someone for a date and not for immediate marriage, you decide whether it is this person or not

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I never used online dating so I don’t know if this is better then starting a conversation "on the street" but if I have to say something then I think that it will all depend on the person if you are a shy person or you don't make a good first impression then you have more chance on online dating then on the street and you have greater selection of candidates that mostly also are looking for someone.
lukaszK said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think the algorithm created by the person from the presentation doesn't work.
It is impossible to know someone very well after several meetings, arrange a wedding and a child in a year - because someone fit into some guidelines and points one day. It doesn't work that way, people change, they don't talk about some things.
In addition, it is impossible to know someone completely, especially in such a short time.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
People rarely start a conversation on the street - they rather pair up at school, in college, or at work. This is a limited field of search.
Dating applications can help, on the other hand, they give an infinite number of choices, which makes it difficult to make a decision on a long time relationship with one person.
The number of divorces breaks all records, the number of weddings drops to minimum, the institution of marriage has lost its importance.
This does not encourage for long time relationships, but rather fleeting relationships.
Filip Bartuzi said…
Ah, I remember I've watched that video couple of years ago, thank you for bringing it up!
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think you could rephrase the question and receive tottally different answers. If you ask if using your time efficiently is right I definitely answer yes. And is using technology (and algorithms!) for it appropriate - I agree again. Therefore, using technology and using it the smart way, like Amy Webb did in her experiment, is also big yes from me :)
2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
Again, getting back to time effectivness I mentioned in the first question - I would say online dating absolutely outstands cold-approach on the street. Also, I think you actually can find a better match online than in cold-approaching. In cold-approaching you are very limited to place you live, time you're actually outside to have opportunity to approach someone which might heavily influence type of people you stumble upon.
Maciej Górczak said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think: whatever works! Finding love in this day and age can be very hard. Also when we get older we look at things differently. Nice body and a smile is not enough. When you become more mature you want to find a soulmate/partner. That is truly not easy. Maybe algorithm is the right way to go. I would problably try some other ways before turning to an algorithm.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
Online dating turned out to be the best thing for me - I found the love of my life on one of the platforms and I couldn't be happier.
I think it is a little bit easier, especially for a shy person. But online dating in general is pretty brutal, saying hi to someone on the street is more romantic and "real".
Jakub Kisiała said…
1. Technically we looking for someone with preferred behaviors. If algorithm can give us this kind of person in my opinion that's great. Many people think about online dating as something wrong also. But if people are happy with this it doesn't mind for me.

2. I rather prefer to see that online dating is other way of doing same thing, looking for someone special. One which is brave enought to start chat on a street also can use online dating to have better comparison. On the other hand shy people may like to searching online. Both ways for me are correct.
Roman Dubovyi said…
1. For some people - maybe. For people like me, for example, it's unreal. My partner should be able to handle my character sometimes. And there is no way of describing those little things that make us special by algorithm, moreover finding a suitable person.

2. I hate the idea of on-line dating, because if you use those services you probably already have some goals to accomplish by setting this kind of date. And you go to such date not because you are interested in this person. The same story applies to your date person. In the end you are both just two miserable dudes.
Those relations usually don't last more than a few dates, do they ;)?
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
Any algorithm would find that "right" person just matching some criteria you wrote on your profile. But the problem is that no matter which music you like or what is you profession, that is not those aspects of personality that make you fall in love with somebody. The main characteristics are the way this person speaks to you, his (her) style of jokes and a lot of other similar details that cannot be just written in a questioner. As you see, I don't really believe in mathematics in this area.
2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
In my opinion, it doesn't matter how the conversation has started. It could be online or on the street. If people like each other, they will continue dating anyway.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I don’t think that finding your “soulmate” with an algorithm is possible. I don’t believe that there is some magic formula if it comes to relationships between humans. We are much too complicated, and even if something makes perfect sense on paper that this two people are perfect for each other, I think that in real world it wouldn’t work, just because of some dumb thinks like “chewing too loud”.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I prefer starting a conversation “on the street” but its just my preference. I feel like it’s much more “real” than the created internet personas that try to date. Keeping a physical conversation is much harder than texting, where you can take your time and carefully think how you should answer.
Yubin said…
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
In my opinion, two situations to answer this quetsion, assume there is a population threshold k, if you use the algorithm in less than k people, which mean you probably only want meet your right person within your town, than I think its better to meet your right person in real life, else, this algorithm would be not that bad since it can help find people who may meet certain conditions, anyway, the time complexity in the most pessimistic case is O(n), which is still not O(1), which means you may finally traverse the people enough to meet your right person at the age of the lady's in the video, just make sure you don't meet someone like Ted Bundy, or Jack who built that house.
Okay I can not make up anymore:p

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
As a guy, 7 or 8 years ago, I dated a lot of people online, after dating 10+ people, I started to get into that social circle, and start to start conversation on the street more, to be honest, most of the people I dated were guys, because I was dating them for forming metal bands:p
Okay if for normal dating, I think both way are correct, but "on the street" will be better.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

For me, it's a little bit strange. Technically, it should work perfectly fine, but I can hardly imagine using this algorithm in real life. Nevertheless, if this algorithm helps people to find their soulmate, why not? I mean, this is the main purpose of this algorithm and if it works, then there are no problems.

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

I am not sure, I think it depends. Because using online dating and finding partner throw different applications could be tricky. Someone could simply write false information about themself or it could be some other problems. But this could also happen with the conversation "on the street", so I think, online dating is a modern solution for a conversation on the street.
Klaudia Kozioł said…
1. I think that finding the right person is more of a luck or accident than an algorithm. But I don’t see why using the algorithm would be inappropriate, if it could help someone find their second half then why not.
2. Personally, I prefer starting conversation “on the street” and being with person face to face. I think that talking to someone in a meeting we act different than talking on the same topic through the internet and we can feel better how interested in conversation the other person is
Rafał Halama said…
1. Yes, I think so. Algorithm can help us find the person that's as closest to our type as possible, both in looks, personality, and hobbies. Of course, some people are polar opposites of each other, and they still make amazing couples, so in this case algorithm isn't much helpful.

2. Depends on the person. For me online dating is much more enjoyable and that;'s how I met my current girlfriend. I got very comfortable with her by our interactions online, and that helps with making in real life interactions not awkward at all.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?

I mean there is nothing bad about it. How it is diffrent than randomly meeting someone in grocery store?

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?

It is easier for sure for many people.
1. Do you think that finding the right person with an algorithm is appropriate?
I think finding such a person is just as normal as finding someone in a real life

2. What's your opinion about online dating, is it better than starting a conversation "on the street"?
I think it's better because you have more time to think

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