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Week 9 [28.05.2018-03.06.2018] Privacy – the ultimate payment method of current world.

Privacy – the ultimate payment method of current world.


I can bet that 100% of the people who read this post have no idea that they have given up part of their privacy while doing so. Why u ask ? Well blogspot is collecting data on you while you read for example.

What I want to say is that most of you are not aware that most if not all of the free sites are not actually free. They don’t take our money in exchange for goods, they take the ultimate payment bite into your data, into your privacy.
So most of us have probably heard about Cambridge Analytica scandal. For those unaware Facebook shared over 87 million people’s data to Cambridge Analytica. After exposure Facebook’s chief Mark Zuckerberg was questioned by US Congress on its data leak, fake news and Russian election meddling suspicions.

Following the scandal many have prophesied Facebook’s end, a downfall of Facebook’s user base, masses deleting accounts. That never actually happened,  Facebook’s usage actually rose even after deletion of 583 million fake accounts following Russian interference in the US election.

But why are we talking about Facebook well out of all the sites I know it’s the biggest one that takes a huge bite out of your privacy in exchange for its usage.

What’s worse we love it !

We love the idea of being part of Facebook’s community for such a small fee – it’s nothing, right ?

But no one really gets bigger scope, or its more convenient to ignore it : What if a 100 sites we use monthly collect data on us? Gmail reads your emails, Google collects data on your searches, Windows tracks everything you do on your computer and so on…
Nothing we do in the modern world goes unnoticed. We can no longer be sure that our words are not getting recorded for future use or that our actions noted.

I found a great video in which Andy Yen tackles the problems of our online privacy in particular our emails.

Watch the video and look at date it was published.






Scary isn’t it ? Its been 4 years and nothing has changed. It’s gotten even worse !

There is one scary joke I heard that is becoming more and more true each year:

“An ad on Google search engine says : We are hiring! P.S. Don’t send CV’s we already know everything, we will call you.”

So with that gloomy joke I want to ask you:
Should we become cautious of what data sites, apps, companies collect on us?
Is it a problem that in order to live in the modern world we have to give up parts if not all of our privacy?
Would you pay for services like Facebook if they were to not collect data ? Or would u stop using them?
What’s your way of fighting the invigilation? Or you just don’t care?

Sources:
TED talk archives can be found here



Comments

Lukasz Mroczek said…
It's obvious that we should be cautious what type of data are collected from our site visits, apps etc. Nowadays our data is exposed to the whole world so we need to do everything to keep our data safe. I know it's impossible but we can avoid exposing it more than it's needed.
We can't determine whether is it a problem or not because it depends. For example I don't like exposing my data but I have friends that don't even care about it. For me it's a problem but they don't consider it as a problem.
I would pay for keeping my data private but it would be hard to trust company like fb.
Unknown said…
I am pretty sure that today after all the drama involving leaked or hacked data people have become more aware and cautious when it comes to privacy and risks of losing that privacy when using web services like Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. Moreover, I think that people knew this fact all along but they simply did not want to understand how important that issue can become.
In my opinion, our world at some point in history humanity simply became too globalized and now we see cons of this globalization. Privacy problem is one of the results of this globalization. If the world is so connected today that means that boundaries between our real life and digital slowly become to disappear. And this is all because of our desire to tell everybody about ourselves and stay in touch with rest of the world. We became so open that companies like Facebook started to exploit this weakness and here we have results. Like it was mentioned in the article if you want to use something you have to pay a price. If you want to use social media then be ready to sacrifice some part of your privacy.
I am not sure about this one, it depends on terms of service and what guarantees they would give me.
I think you simply should be aware of your actions online and understand all possible consequences of those actions.
Marcin Mróz said…
I have never thought that using all the 'free' services like Google, Facebook, Twitter or any other is actually free. In case of blogspot I was even talking about it with my friend that something like this could know so much about us - what are our views on all these things that we discuss here, what are our habits or preferences. It's a bit creepy. It's sad that in order to just make use of internet fully we have to sacrifice our privacy. But after all nothing is for free. I think that I could pay for services like Google which are really useful, but in case of Facebook I think I would just give up on it. It's not something that I couldn't live without.
Did you try talking to your friends about that matter?
>it depends on terms of service and what guarantees they would give me.

Well after Facebook's scandal have you explored any other options like Twitter?
Do you think that alternative to Facebook exist nowadays?
What of the Googles services would u pay for? And why ?
I would like to know which of the Google services you deem useful and valuable.
What price would be right on those services?
Unknown said…
For me, this is an interesting and important topic, of course, it is worth to be cautious about what we are looking for on the Internet or what information about us will be found on our mail. This is a problem for the modern world, as access to all information is free, but if you want you can learn about any information. Many people probably are not interested in this or they simply do not care when they exhibit their personal photos and put geolocation. I probably would not pay anyone just for them to stop collecting data about me, because I think that I'm not such an important person so far that they were interested in what I'm fond of and with whom I communicate. My way is to evaluate the information that I personally put on the Internet for public viewing.
Unknown said…
I believe that we should be cautious about the data we share, although it's probably not possible to stay private in the modern world. There are so many services that require us to give our data to them that we are becoming dependent on some of them.
You asked me if I would pay for Facebook if it didn't collect my data, but how could I know that it doesn't?
Unknown said…
I think we are living in times like these, that it is obvious that we have to be careful what we post on the Internet. Every page, every application we use collects data on and I don't care, because my life is not so interesting that hackers can blackmail me with something. I always think it is important to be careful what we post. I only use Facebook to communicate with friends where we don't write anything specific and for university affairs, so I don't care about paid Facebook.
So would u say that RODO was a great addition to law ? Now that it forces companies to give u an insight in your data?
Have you watched the Video?
Saying >my life is not so interesting that hackers can blackmail me with something.
is exactly what is tackled within it.
If thats the case then come and share your passwords with us :)
Iman Masjedi said…
Yes, any company that stores any information of any kind in any form should notify you. This information is part of our true and true identity and we must not give it ownership to any company without permission.I prefer to pay for the services I use. I do not accept or permit the use of personal data.
Filip Sawicki said…
Our data security is very important. We have to me more and more cautious about what we are sharing on various of websites and applications. GDPR is certainly helping with that, but we should be aware that this won’t solve a problem on the long run. I wouldn’t pay services like Facebook to stop collecting my data, this is the wrong way to go. It is easy to mitigate at the same time, I would basically stop sharing any data on that platform. My way of fighting the invigilation is the common sense, it’s the most effective and easy way of all.
What about Gmail and other services? Are there any services u would pay for ?
Are there any services u deem necessary?
Do you think that the newest laws passed in Eu are enough ? Or we should oversee how companies use and collect our data more?
Anna Koca said…
Should we become cautious of what data sites, apps, companies collect on us?
I think so, however, it is a new problem, and as you mentioned quite well, people still are not aware what is the price of privacy. They, I, don't really understand what bad can happen if big companies know everything on you. I guess it's just the question of scales - if they know everything on billions of people, they will probably not have time to focus on you anyway.

Is it a problem that in order to live in the modern world we have to give up parts if not all of our privacy?
Again, it probably is a problem, but the future is to show what the actual price was. Now we are living "on a loan" - getting free stuff and giving away our personal data, which does not do any harm to us apart from getting spam e-mails. But sadly, in the future, maybe we will start paying a bigger price - but then there will be no turning back.

Would you pay for services like Facebook if they were to not collect data ? Or would u stop using them?
No, I wouldn't! That's the thing - money is very "countable", but paying with our privacy seems like buying something for free. I'd much rather pay with privacy than real money.

What’s your way of fighting the invigilation? Or you just don’t care?
I usually don't let the sites send me any newsletter and click "No" on questions about finding my location. But if I'm put against the wall, and it's a no-go without accepting the terms of invigilation, I usually accept them and don't care.
Unknown said…
We should be cautious, but not to much. I don't care that much, because I really hope I have nothing to hide. But of course, that doesnt make me feel good when i know that somebody can know or read EVERYTHING about my personal life. I would pay for privacy if it would be really low cost, something like 1$ per month. And I think that this is not the way things should work. We shouldnt pay for privacy or fight for it- it should be the right we get from childhood and nobody should ever try to brake it. But right now I think people should really start doing something about that. Nothing is really private nowadays.
Andrzej Gulak said…
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>But if I'm put against the wall, and it's a no-go without accepting the terms of invigilation, I usually accept them and don't care.

Wouldn't it be wiser to avoid such sites ? Every time i encounter an "unskippable opt-ins" on site i just go to a different one for example.
Do you think that Private Internet Access services will rise as VPN's did ?
Unknown said…
Should we become cautious of what data sites, apps, companies collect on us?
Definitely yes. But sometimes it's much harder, because of the data selling between the companies makes it much more difficult than average person thinks it is.

Is it a problem that in order to live in the modern world we have to give up parts if not all of our privacy?
Yes, and it's the problem not only with the morality, but the human laziness as well. And unfortunately it all started not so long ago.

Would you pay for services like Facebook if they were to not collect data ? Or would u stop using them?
Personally I don't know. It mostly depends on the price and usefulness of the service. In fact I really don't like the Facebook at all because of hard invigilation procedures.

What’s your way of fighting the invigilation? Or you just don’t care?
Mostly I use VPNs, Thor and Linux based operating systems, but the best way to fight invigilation is to not provide data at all anywhere digital.
When I saw this video I thought: «God, I know about it all» And that’s truth I saw and read apropos this so many informations. Last year I watched one film named «Snowden», that’s about one men who published information about spying for users with the help of internet . And what I can say? Not even PR want to know about us all but also government. Then I saw really idiotic situation in this video he started advertize his site, irony? He every minute talk about privacy but then show us photo, where`re users live. But where he take this kinda informations about users? Assay? Analyzing? Survey? I don’t really think so.
Unknown said…
Should we become cautious of what data sites, apps, companies collect on us?
In my opinion, mandatory. people should be careful and caution about every service, and the mostly, the biggest one.
Is it a problem that in order to live in the modern world we have to give up parts if not all of our privacy?
Yes, for me definitely it is a problem. I am hope that this will change someday. Now, people can choose more secure and more private competition services.
Would you pay for services like Facebook if they were to not collect data ? Or would u stop using them?
Maybe I would pay, but stopping using fb is not easy because there are almost everybody.
What’s your way of fighting the invigilation? Or you just don’t care?
I used to use some of the available apps for protecting my privacy.
Marcin Górski said…
Yes, of course. We should be cautious of what data they collect on us because it's about us, our information what should be private. It depends on price because it's not problem for me to not use Facebook or any other social media website. It's something additional and not the most important in my life so I can live without it. Fighting the invigilation? As mentioned before, VPN can be a good practice.
As to what should we do about privacy collection, there are at least 2 solutions: first, make it mandatory for people to get acquainted with terms of use, like for example in paper form with a short quiz to ensure a person really read it and hard bureaucracy behind all of that. Second is to change a perspective on personal information on a phylosophical level, and stop treating pesonal information like somethig of relevance and cost, like if someone hears that i hate some person he would tell me the same, and next day we will work in the same environment without any problems. I don't think that it is okay to gice any kind of information about oneself no matter the cost. I don't mind paying Facebook and other services for not collecting my data, but the price may become an issue, for example in some countries 300-400 $ is average salary, and if Facebook would force people to pay for example 100$ every month it would become a problem. I do not fight invigilation because i do not have any influence over these services, but i personaly do not share to much information and use these services only as a means of communication.
Unknown said…
Yeah, I agree that our data security is very important, so we have to be aware what we are "putting" into the internet. But, except of my name, surname and e-mail I dont put any private information online. So, they don't have my id, bank account and adress(well, I put it only in shipping details when I order sth online). So I tkinh I'm pretty good with my information online. I know I have to be caution when I put my information on some sites - sometimes I give fake data. Well, as I said, on facebook I have a lot of photos, my name, surname and email - so I dont know is this information are usefull to something dangerous for me - as long as their not reading my messeges I feel safe.
Let's say that I;m just aware of info I put online ;)
Unknown said…
I think we should. That's information about us, and we should be bothers on how they are used. It's hard to say whether if it's a problem or not. It's sort of new environment that we have to get used to. I'm okay with sharing parts of my private data if it's managed correctly and I have control over it. I mean how it's used and collected. I won't pay for stop gathering my data because I think there is no way to escape from that.

I care about my data. That's, in my opinion, the bays way of fighting with invigilation. I think before I click share buttons or submit a form to a suspicious website.
Cecylia said…
In my opinion what is done is already done so the only thing we should do is to limit information transfer but if they say that our emails, data , and calls are secretly controlled so i think that its useless anyways. I don't know it is hard because it means that nothing is personal... It is a problem because the internet should not use our privacy. Everybody has their own life, problems, dreams and the internet does not respect it at all . its disgusting . I would not pay Facebook because after all of this a would never trust again so the better way is to stop using it. I personally don't have the mind to think about this. I have nothing to hide, i am not an international dealer so a don't care about it but the fact of all that situation is disappointing .

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