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Week 7 [25.11 - 01.12.2019] Public shaming


Public shaming

We live in amazing times mostly because of the internet. It’s great that we can communicate easily, learn almost everything for free, but now let’s talk about disadvantages.
Judging others is easy, we all know it’s wrong but also all of us do it.

It’s getting even easier when somebody encourages you and what about judging someone with the rest of the internet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIYsdulTgU
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of  the internet?
3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?

Comments

August Micota said…
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
It is scientificly proven that punishment in any form does not bring expected results. That's why my opinion on any form of punishment is: it doesn't work.
2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
I wouldn't say so, we are just able to see it on the internet in a greater dose than years ago that's why we might think so.
3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
From the real life not but i won't forget a scene from Game of Thrones where queen Cercei was publicly shamed on the streets of Kings Landing. We can all agree that this action didn't bring expected results :-)
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Anna Koca said…
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
I think that humiliation is unsuitable kind of punishment. Instead of the messuage that somebody contacted badly humiliation makes the person feel ashamed and a victim. Humiliation as punishment induces result which is opposite to intended.

2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
Yes, I agree that people are less empathetic. Nowadays in Europe, people are much more focused on themselves than in the past. It is caused by a lot of factors like consumerism, culture of money and success and mass of bad, catastrophic news in media everyday.

3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
The most popular, and one of the firsts examples of public shaming is the Dog Poop girl. Some girl in Seoul, South Korea didn't clean poop of her dog in the subway. Someone recorded it and send pictures with details on popular forums on the Internet. After couple hours her life was hemmed, she was recognized on the streets, people sent her hate messuages and she had to drop out of University. In my opinion consequences were exaggerated.
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
I would say the same thing as August Micota. It's like a prison. It won't help in any form, just will screw up life, that's all, of course if we talk about innocent or at least not that bad.
2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
I may think so because we have an internet. It makes us feel that people around(in the internet) much crueler than it was years ago.
3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
Nope, i've never heard(
Karol Michalak said…
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
It maybe useful but only if the crime is adequate to the mob loudness and anger and vice versa.

2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
Yes, anonymity destroys our empathy it makes us feel not guilty for what people on the other site of the globe does to him or herself after our criticism.

3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
Few years ago there was an polish internet meme with a face of police officer with a specific mustache. People sadly starting joking too much even found him in real life and the amount of recognition ruined his career at that moment. I have no idea what he does nowadays.
I believe that punishing people should not be public. It must be a terrible feeling to be humiliated by other people.
I think people have less empathy :(
Hardly anyone is kind to strangers. It's very likely that it's the internet and more specifically social media.
I sometimes follow "dramas" on the internet, but I don't think any situation of public humiliation. Maybe Gimper vs Wideoprezentacje(Ator).
Angelika Dutt said…
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
I believe that punishing people by humiliation is terrible and inhumane and should not be used.

2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
Unfortunately, in my opinion, people have less and less empathy, I think it is due to the Internet, but also to the fact that the people's priority has changed. We used to care more about family and loved ones and now we focus on jobs and careers.

3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
I don't know the direct case of a person whose life has been destroyed by the Internet, but I think that unfortunately there are a lot of such people nowadays.
Yubin said…
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
I don't support humiliation as punishment, it is very counterproductive, it is only giving vent to our sentiment but not helping anything.

2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
I agree, people are addicted to phone or phone apps nowadays, in the meanwhile, they have lost many opportunities to sympathize with others, this somehow make sense, and in my opinion, it is really a disadvantage of the internet, also so many people suicide because of cyberbullying.

3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
Yes, there are too many examples, for example just what I mention in last question about cyberbullying, and it is not a good idea to spread any of them in internet again.
Jakub Kisiała said…
1. Humiliation is probably one of the worst forms of punishment. Usually these are unpleasant situations in which only someone wanted to take revenge.
2. I think people are less empathic because the internet has brought us a whole bunch of people. We used to only have contact with our friends in real life. Now you can exchange everyone for friends from the Internet who are similar to us and better suited. I think that the internet is also a place where people feel anonymous and can vent their emotions without suffering the consequences.
3. I think that only people who have not explained how the internet works can be concerned about the opinions of others. Probably everyone who uses the Internet has experienced such behavior, especially if he expresses their mind in it.
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1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
I think humiliation is not a good form of punishment. This is the only way we increase people's hatred and evil in the world.

2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
I don't think people currently have less empathy. Nowadays, people more often support various foundations, share food or simply collect things for e.g. a noble package like our university. It's really amazing.

3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
Unfortunately, I don't know anything like that.
Kacper Gąsior said…
1. I don't think it's a good idea. When we speak about punishment, we think about something that will make the guilty change his behavior. Punishment has to repair something, not to be a way of taking revenge. In my opinion humiliating will never make another person think through his behavior or show him that it wasn't worth doing. It will make him well worse, which can cause an anger and even lead to violent reactions.

2. I don't think people have less empathy nowadays, but in my opinion, many things make us think so. Some people, who want to became famous, are behaving in an insensitive way. According to them, being cruel toward weaker people is a great fun and make you feel stronger. In my opinion, it's not like people are less sensitive, just some of them want to sell out on acts of aggression and lack of empathy.

3. Fortunately, I haven't seen anything like that.
I believe humiliation as punishment is good but only in theory. People get too crazy about small things today and attack for something that is not really as important as for exemple killing someone. Like killing this lion is not as bad as killing a person. We hunted animals for thousand of years and now activists go crazy about it. I think people actually have more empathy now than in the past but it is often presented in very different way. As an example i can't understand applying civil/human rights to serial killers and murderers. I remember when a famous youtuber PewDiePie said controversial n-word and he was instantly attacked by medias calling him racist even though he instantly apologised for saying it not intentionally. I think that unjustified public humilitation should be penalised more these days.
Kuba Berliński said…

1. I think it is not a cool thing to do, though I'm sure that a humiliated person would reconsider done things. In a way it is quite a serious punishment, depending on the situation, without physically hurting anyone.

2. I think human kind have always lacked empathy. Times and internet don't really matter. In the middleages there was no internet and public executions were held and enjoyed by many...

3. I don't think so or I cannot think of any right now. Although the internet is full of this kind of content.
s15740 said…
1. I think, according to institution of punishment, punishment has a goal to make somebody understand that his behavior was unacceptable and as a consequence – prevent relapse, not to make somebody feel shamed or humiliated.
2. People never gave a * about others in all times, nowadays it is not an exception.
3. I know one, but its not about ruining life or from internet. It is from history; it is about Daniel Foe. When he was chained to the pillory, people threw in him flowers instead of stones and vegetables. I will not write all about this story, maybe if you are interested you can find some information.

1. I think that's a bad thinking. Punishment is the realization of a man that he has done something wrong and bears the consequences. Humiliation is a mental state that occurs when things happen or happen, which we demand, violating our dignity and making us inferior.

2. Yes, nowadays people have less empathy and this is partially the web defect. The entire internet affects our behavior, mental states and our personality traits.

3. No, I do not know any examples of public embarrassment on the Internet that ruined someone's life.
1. I don't believe that humiliation can affect someone's life nowadays. In the world of internet, everyone can just 'pull the plug' and ignore every statement about them.

2. Yes, people always tend to approach thing with negative attitude. There are too much factors that affect people's likes and dislikes, opinion etc.

3. As of the recent one, i would say shaming of ProJared (youtuber). The whole history is too long for me to say about it here.
Damian Drozd said…
Thank you for your opinion August.
You made me curious about that results of punishment!
It seems that punishment really isn't best option in parenting but also it doesn't reduce crime.
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
I have gone through a lot of shaming during my school years and I got some traumas, that I am coping with till today and will for more years from now. So, definitely it is not OK.
2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
I think that there are people who are empathic and those, who are not. You just need to find the right ones.
3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
I am happy that I didn't, but I have seen a lot of shaming on the internet connected to people, who do not look like those "insta models" and who act not like "normal people". This is bad, I think that in 2019 we should accept people as they are.
1. Humiliation is not a good form of punishment but it is effective, in my opinion there is no alternative to this.
2. Depending on the situation, I think that the Internet is the reason because we do not see a person and we can even offend him without remorse.
3. I honestly don't remember, there were certainly hundreds of such cases, although there are a couple of famous youtubers who lost a lot through via internet
Damian Drozd said…
Well, it's sad that people became less empathetic. I agree about factors you've mentioned, Anna.
I didn't know the story of the girl. It's terrifying how easy it is to destroy someone's life.
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?

Public shaming in my opinion is not a good way of punishing anyone. It might be very harmful to children if that would be a way of punishing them for misbehaving. Those children might have psychological problems further in life so shaming is way to cruel when it comes to them. When it comes to criminals such punishment wouldn't work in my opinion. In extreme situations these could be a part of it, but in most cases prison works better.


2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of  the internet?

People nowadays feel way more anonymous than they used to thanks to the internet and that makes them say (or write) things they wouldn't say face to face. The other thing is that everyday we hear about people's tragedies from all around the world and we got used to it. Empathy has its limits and some people had very little of it in the first place. Some are just cruel.


3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?

Yes, I do. There was this girl on the internet whose name was Boxxy. She was doing some simple videos in which she was talking about hersefl. Thanks to her looks she got popular and that turned out to be her curse. Some bad people got interested in her and started looking for her personal data. Unfortunately other users liked that idea and kept stalking go further and further. Girl was terrified because they even found her address so she had to disappear eventually. She moved from her city and removed all her data from the internet. However, after few years she started new channel.
Damian Drozd said…
Yes, I know about the police officer you've mentioned. I've even seen him on TV, he seems a nice guy and I feel bad for him.
Damian Drozd said…
Thank you for your comment Hubert!
I agree that it feels terrible, but what about people who have done some really bad things? Shouldn't they be humiliated by other people?
Damian Drozd said…
That's true and sad that aggressive violent content makes people famous. Remember that there is easy access to those videos and they are very inappropriate for children. It can affect on their behaviour and that can be a reason why we're less empathetic.
Damian Drozd said…
Unfortunately, there's many examples of humiliations that led up to suicide.
Damian Drozd said…
Thank you for your opinion.
Is humiliation really effective? I think that still there's more damaging consequences.
Damian Drozd said…
Thanks for the story, I will definitely check it out!
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
To be honest I have a mixed feelings. Depends on a crime I guess. For most horrific ones it could be a part of punishment. Humiliation itself is a very dangerous tools. It lowers people ego and can lead to depression. As far as I remembered there was a scientific project about a drug that could cause depression. It was suppose to replace death penalty but in the end it was said that it is to much punishment and project was cancelled.
2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
No, I believe most people still have empathy on the same level as 10-15 years ago. They will not walk up to someone and tell them straight in the face what they think about them. Problem is that the internet allows them to do it without leaving their home or do it anonymously.
3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
No, and to be honest I'm glad I don't know any of such examples. Public shaming in the internet is a sick game that is played by people who think that one or two comments cannot do any harm.
1. I believe that humiliation can never be well justified. This is always bad and there are other ways to punish.
2. I think it's likely that now people have less direct contact with others. Yes, I think the internet has a share in it.
3. Now I don't have a specific example but you often hear about similar stories.
Denys Pogurskyi said…
1. This is quite a serious punishment, as for me ... I would prefer to avoid such punishments.
2. I completely agree with this, and naturally, the Internet is to blame for this partly. The same videos where someone slipped and fell into the water or something as that, many just laugh at the person who fell, they won’t think that he could get hurt or break something, for them, the very fact that someone will be hurt just amuses them...
3. At the expense of what would destroy someone's life ... I do not remember this. But public shame I had seen enough before, and not only on the Internet but also on TV.
1. What’s your opinion on humiliation as punishment?
Is it a punishment? It sure is, but lynching people online doesn’t sound like something just. It can destroy people’s mental health and even lives. I don’t think that it is a good way to punish anyone.

2. Do you agree people have less empathy nowadays? If the answer is yes, do you think it is a disadvantage of the internet?
I don’t think that people have less empathy nowadays, but we tend to do and say things on the internet that we wouldn’t do in real life. Anonymity make us don’t think about consequences.

3. Do you know any examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life?
I know some cases when public shaming destroyed someone’s life but can’t really remember any specific case.
For me it’s inhuman thing to do. No one would ever want to be humiliated, especially publicly, so why do that to the others? There are many different ways of making people “pay for their mistakes” but using humiliation as a punishment can make irreversible changes in someone’s life and kind of destroy this person. I definitely agree with that people have less empathy nowadays. A lot of them don’t think about consequences before they judge, especially in the internet because it’s easier to criticize someone or his work not being face to face with him. But unfortunately it also becomes more common in reality. I don’t know exact examples of public shaming in the internet that ruined somebody’s life but I’m pretty sure that many actors, singers or different well known people have problems and feel uncomfortable in their lives because of being shamed.
1. I am definitely of the opinion that humiliation is not the proper form of punishment. If it is necessary to punish someone, it must have an educational character and not causing even worse effects.

2. I think it might be true. Nowadays, in the age of the internet and modern technologies, we have a lot of opportunities to contact and deepen friends without leaving home. For some it will be a very good option for others already less. If we talk face to face, it means that we feel the emotions of the interlocutor, we see the behaviors of others. Sometimes we also refrain from telling someone unpleasant words. Unfortunately, many people can't resist online and hate and offend others sometimes without reason just to make the commission feel sorry.

3. Personally, I don't have such an example among my friends and family that someone ruined someone's life online. Unfortunately, much is said and heard about it. Sometimes it happens that the hate is so strong and goes to the someone who is mentally weak, who because of this commit suicide. I am of the opinion that such humiliation and hating should be severely punished.

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