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Week 6 [20-26.11.17] What is the fate of the Universe?


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Probably most of the time we watch a documentary movie about curiosities of the universe and its mysteries, there are some alarming, slightly eerie prognosis of The Solar System’s fate.
Commonly, such chilling predictions are left with room for doubt, judgment and conclusions. That is mainly due to evergoing research into fundamental laws of the universe. Surprisingly for some, the humankind is still discovering and acknowledging new phenomena occurring in the space and even much closer to us – phenomena on molecular level. Thus, being aware of not knowing all the facts and detailed process underlying the complex mechanism of the Universe existence, popular science publications present mostly theories with open questions at the end. Quite recently a new breakthrough in physics has took place as in 2012 a new theory regarding elementary particles origin was created – Higgs theory. It explains a phenomena dating up to the Big Bang event. Physicist believe that right after the Big Bang, so called, Higgs field formed and filled the universe contributing to development of elementary particles’ mass. However, as it often happens in scientific world, the brand new theory began to be questioned. Theoretical physicians have been analysing the new discovery, applying it to numerous physics laws we know today. Obtained results are both interesting and worsening. Through mathematical insight the scientists came into a conclusion that the Higgs Field does not necessarily exist in only one phase but it might undergo a transition into its extremely dense state, destroying all the matter in the universe.

Here lies the potential threat to our world. However, this devastating event is said to take place in billions of years from now. Such a prognosis is based on the multiverse theory, opening another set of doors to predictions, speculations and doubts. We are yet left with a bunch of thrilling open question in our minds.


Questions:
1. How do you feel about predicting the fate of the universe in general? Should we be concerned about any calculated possibility regarding the end of the World?
2. Should we, as a humankind, start taking precautionary measures in order to protect ourselves from possible collapse of the universe? If yes, how should we decide which theorem about fate of the universe to get prepared for?
3. In your opinion, are mathematical evidences strong enough to definitively accept any of the scientific theories, even if no experimental trials can be done to support the idea?

Comments

Unknown said…
I think that predicting the end of the world is stupid and not true. The end of the world was about to be several times and what? :D First of all, we should take care of this World. Don't rub, Don't pollute the air and water, etc. I think the end of the world will come at the least expected moment where no one would expect it.
Jakub Lisicki said…
I appreciate this comment and partially agree with it. Maybe there is just no point in worring about it now that we still have billions of years before any real threat to our planet and civilisation. I also am pretty sure though that the Earth will not be there forever.
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Unknown said…
So... I'm not a physicist and I don't understand many things from this post :)
But, I think that everyone should be understood that there is always a beginning and an end.
Jakub Lisicki said…
Should that influence our lives though? There were already a lot of speculations about the end of the world, which were always false. Should we treat our own death as the only possible end of the world that we'll ever experience?
Unknown said…
I think it makes no sense to worry about the future of Universe. In fact every theory is just prediction. I think that there is nothing to worry about . Our Galaxy has existed for many years and will exist for many more years. I don't how people can defend against collapse of Universe. There are forces that we don't understand and of course we can't control them. It seems that none of these theories is 100 % true.
Unknown said…
Our mind is too small to understand the whole Universe. In my opinion, any proof, even good ones, can't be fully trusted, because those who come up with them are only humans. Maybe in some far away future, when we'll evolve in some transcendent life form, we will understand everything, but not today.

I tell you what, none of us will see this collapse. If it'll happen, nobody will be capable even understand what's happened.

We are primitive creatures who live on a rock flying around in the void. What we can possibly observe from our rock? We can't se the big picture, thus we can't make any trustable suggestions, that's what I think.
Unknown said…
This is really hard topic to discuss. However i like to read and watch videos about astronomy, overall space theme. For us humans, as civilisation of tier 0 which is becoming tier 1, universe issues are way too far. When we will become tier 2, we can think about our solar system which is already insanely big. I mean, it is good to thing about everything that is surrounding us but first things first :)
Unknown said…
I would agree with the statement above that it's very difficult issue. Firstly, the recent research shows that our planet is at risk and we must take a lot of crucial measures in order to save the place we live in. So, I think it's useful,when reseachers publish their scientific articles, where they try to predict future, because it may mobilise people to coopearate.
I am more than sure that it's high time to stop huge air pollution, nuclear pollution etc. However, it's really utopian for the countries of the Third World
Vladlen Kyselov said…
I think that we should calculate mathematically fate of universe if it is possible but just to be aware of what can occur in the nearest future. We should not pay much attention on it. But this is just my opinion and I don`t know how much does it cost take make such embarrassing calculations related to universe fate/future prediction.
Unknown said…
Predicting fate of the universe as much as fun thing to do is not an issue to be concerned by our and many generations to come. In those years before various scenarios of the end of the world might occur, humanity may no longer even exist to witness it. That doesn't mean we should not do more research, try finding answers, there is so much to explore yet. We don't even know what we don't know. So future revelations might change the perspective on how we look at certain, even in the long run, issues about end of the universe. Whether mathematical evidences are correct, we should just do our thing and learn about ourselves and the universe as much as possible. That opens the doors to possibilities yet unkown.
How do you feel about predicting the fate of the universe in general? Should we be concerned about any calculated possibility regarding the end of the World?
In my opinion, in a one day, we will predict with calculating when the end of the world would be, but i can't even imagine how it must be. And i think even strong mathematical evidences can't give us 100% sure result
How about the idea that it is all based on electromagnetic, and gravity comes from that. Then there is the idea that the Big Bang never happened and the universe is just eternal. I am not making claims but have heard some of these other things lately.
Maciej Główka said…
I really admire scientist that explore or universe. In my opinion, we shouldn't be worried about the end of the universe, because if we don't change our habits, we will destroy our planet a lot of sooner. That's why we should focus on this threat.
I think that mathematical evidences is a very important step in scientific theories. However, to be 100% correct, they should be supported by some real life experiments.
I don’t really care about the fate of universe, I’m certain that me and all of my descendants will be long dead before anything important happen.
Should we, as a humankind, start taking precautionary measures in order to protect ourselves from possible collapse of the universe? No, what for? We wouldn’t probably be able to change anything, so just don’t stress about it.
Alicja said…
It's an interesting theory.

I think in general we should be curious human beings :) but we should be concerned only if a new discovery is verifiable.

CERN built the huge accelerator in CERN hoping to detect a theoretical particle of the type bosson. If such particle exists, then there could be a field in which it gets excited. This field would be the gravitational field. If so, the gravitational force would be created the same way that the other 3 forces are created (strong force, weak force and electro-magnetic force). This would mean that the quantum mechanic could include the gravitation, which would present the first step in the integration of the theory of relativity and the quantum mechanics. The only issue with this theory so far is that the scientists have not managed to find the particle. The media reports about the discovery of "God's particle" were premature, which made Prof. Higgs start ironing his tuxedo for the next Nobel Prize ceremony. Unfortunately, there are still doubts about the experiments and possible alternative explanations, so no Nobel for the poor Higgy.

I don't think we need to start taking any precautionary measures to protect ourselves from possible collapse of the universe taking into account the current state of our knowledge. I think it is much more likely we will extinct as a result of not taking care of our planet and overpopulation.
Unknown said…
I don't think we should believe in calculated end of the world. There were many calculations and none of theme happened. I think there also may not even ever be end of the world. If world would end it would be only because humans appeared on the world. I don't think we can prevent collapse of the universe. We are too weak both mentally and technologically. Matemathical theories are strong enough to prove something is real. In my opinion it works the same way as calculation 2+2 and 1+3. They all equals 4. We don't have to believe that, but we use this calculation everywhere and it works.
Jakub Lisicki said…
People pretty often come up with the ideas which already changed this world so many times. The greatest discoveries of this world are often confirmed by the mathematical and physical backgrounds. That's the approach that we take to make the "bigger picture" more understandable. Not trying at all is simply giving up.
Jakub Lisicki said…
What if doing research on avoiding the end will also help us with solving the issues that you've mentioned? Colonizing other planets would definitely help us with the problems of overpopulation and maybe even starvation. Avoiding the catastrophe of one planet by migrating onto another would just be a really large "bonus". That's killing two birds with one stone.
Unknown said…
Well, all ends sounds tragic to me, but... Hey, probably there will be no humanity, some other evolutionary kind of being will came and replace us at that point, so no worries :) It would be not our problem in the very distant future :)

As for the maths... For our current knowledge it can be strong enough, but we don't know, if we are calculating everything, that is required for predicting the 'experiment' we are theorizing about. So we can accept it and when we will find some other particle, theory or concept, then we will just find other calculation for new theory :)
Magdalena Popek said…

I think it's not important to predict the fate of the universe itself but the knowledge what changes are going to come may be crucial to adapt to them in order to survive. The calculated possibility of the end of the World is so far from now I think we (as regular people living here) should not be concerned about it. I don't know if mathematical evidence is strong enough to accept any of the theories for sure. The topic is so abstract for me I can't assume the evidence is strong or not.
Unknown said…
Of course we need to protect our earth's resources, try to sort waste etc. But Predicting the faith? We haven't still explored the Universe enough to predict something about it. But this is my opinion.
It's rather obvious that our planet will soon or later die for example because of the Sun itself, and it's unavoidable for now. I'm quite positive though that until this happens we'll find out a way as a humanity to stop the process or somehow work it around - maybe through colonizing other planets, maybe through using some super futuristic science that would stop the problem from progressing, or through some other mean. I don't think we're at the point where we need to worry about that just yet - I'd say focus more on making our planet better suited for living by not polluting it and destroying from the inside. We can worry about the universe later :).
Dude, what the heck? You are talking about events that are going to take place billions of years from now, which is longer than the history of life on Earth. Most likely there won't be any humans left at that point, considering that mammals have an average species lifespan of about 1 million years. So even if everything was puppies and sunshine, which is not, there is no point in preparing for it. There are more prevailing issues at hand, which ,knowing our species, won't be resolved, that will most likely result in a collapse of our civilisation much, much sooner. The whole system is not sustainable. How can you have unlimited growth on a finite planet? For all we know even our universe is not infinite. There won't be any action taken, because we are all responsible for it and nature favours short term gains. We do everything exponentially and our minds are not capable of understanding such levels of growth. We've been doubling and doubling every year, we already overshot carrying capacities of our only home. We already need 2 Earths each year to sustain us, the cancer of our planet. Or maybe we are just a bacteria in a Petri dish, doubling our population every day and look there is still half the space left. Until tomorrow...
Marta Kowalczyk said…
It might be more of a philosophical question, but - why should we even care about such things? Personally, I don't see any good reason - it changes nothing about our lives. Also, such predictions of scientists change in time.
I don't think that the end of the world is the issue which is significant for our generation or the next. However, there are plenty of problems which we will have to deal with in the future and this problems will affect our quality of life. In general, I think that predictions and calculations about the fate of the Universe are very important to solve problems with overexploitation of natural resources or the greenhouse effect. Nowadays people are more interested in protecting the environment than in the past. Therefore, we have already started taking precautionary measures, but it is just a beginning of a very long road. As for now, our knowledge about the Universe isn't enough to accept any of the scientifict theories. There are to many unknowns in my opinion.
Unknown said…
>However, this devastating event is said to take place in billions of years from now
>said to take place in billions of years from now
>billions of years from now
Well, all the questions in this article can be answered with "Its not my problem lol".
But, consider the following:
Assuming we won't nuke ourselves, there are billions of comets, asteroids and other space junk that can easily wipe us out, and we even don't track most of it.
Assuming the above "assumption" ("assumception"), if nothing will hit and wipe us out, our beloved sun will synthesize all of its hydrogen and will start burning helium, lowering its mass, thus lowering its density and by that, its gravity, expanding heavily and eating Mercury and Venus.
This whole sunny rollercoaster of death will happen in 5 to 6 billion years, we'll be either long dead by now, or we will burn like a forgotten toast.
Assuming the above assumptions (we need to go deeper), the universe will eventually expand so much, it will become absolute-zero cold- that's the ultimate end of the ends, as it kills everything because of temperature, everywhere.
So, I'd say we have bigger problems, and that problems can unwind much sooner than we expect them to happen...

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