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We live in
a strange world. We are directly or indirectly slaves of the corporations and
banks. Maybe not everyone works in a
corporation, but everyone has a
friend who works in a big company. And your
friend is exploited by a corporation. He doesn’t
have enough time for you. Or when you go out with him, he is very tired. Well, you are not working in a corporation. But a corporation
influences on your relationships. Maybe you don’t have a mortgage, but your parents have and they have to
work very hard to pay it off. This is our world.
We are slaves of the corporations and banks.
What would
happen if somebody removed all informations about loans, mortgages. Is it possible to have a
blank card? What would the world look like? Would there be anarchy? Would you be happier? If you would like to see a vision of
the world when the world order falls I recommend watching Mr Robot.
Mr Robot is a series about a young programmer. „Elliot. Just a tech.” He works in
a cyber-security company. He meets with the management of corporations. He also
see how his friends have to work for many
hours and fight with stress, because they have student loans. He has amazing hacking skills and he can destroy all
databases, all servers, all data, all informatios of
Evil Corp (Evil Corp is a hostile corporation
which deals with all element of our lives e. g. food, computers, cars,
etc.)
For us, IT
students, watching this series should be a pleasure. We will not see „emacsem
przez sendmail” hacking. The characters use Kali Linux and all hacking stuff.
Even names of episodes are in a geeky style (e.
g. „"eps1.5_br4ve-trave1er.asf", "eps2.4_m4ster-s1ave.aes", "eps3.0_power-saver-mode.h").
For the rest of all (no IT guys J) this series may be also very interesting. Mr
Robot is a very complicated drama–thriller
series. Its Storyline is very elaborate and
complex. The world of the show is fascinating.
1.
Have
you seen Mr Robot? What do you think about it?
2.
Do
you agree with my introduction? Why? Why not?
3.
Do
you think our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations?
Sources:
Comments
2. I agree with you, especially in that part that focus on "IT stuff". In times of Hollywood where hackers are played by actors like Chris Hemsworth and hacking looks more like Indiana Jones adventure than programming, it's a huge plus for Mr. Robot for showing hacking as it is. One think that you forgot to mention is music - in my opinion it rocks (for example moment of suffocation with FKA Twigs playing at the background, episode 8 of first season I think).
3. There is a great french movie called "Les Choristes". Movie tells a story about teachers and their unethical methods of education in school for disaffected youth. They explain themselves using a physics low "action réaction". Why I'm even talking about it? In my opinion big cooperates work the same way. We hate them (ok, maybe not all of us, but most for sure). Of course it would be a nicer place to live without big companies. But reasons why they exists are our needs. Who do not have a phone made probably by child in china or clothes made by starving people from third world country? How many of us don't do shopping in stores like Tesco or Biedronka? It is unfair that people who saves life earn less than football player, but that is how economy works. In my opinion the problem lies in ourselves, not in corporations.
2. I'm afraid the feeling on our lives being controlled by corporations isn't nothing new, David Fincher shoved it brilliantly in his Fight Club, but If you ask me, it's still preferable to the standard of living of a normal person several hundred years ago.
*required you to look back
When I give it a thought, it appears (as stated above by someone else) that our needs and choices, so in fact we ourselves, created these companies. In my opinion, the best way to change it, is to start with yourself. I believe it's worth a while to reevaluate our every day routines and the way we think. It might bring us closer to the world we would like to live in. You can vote every day by choosing cinema, products, restaurant and university too.
Some corporations are like a sect - every week a meeting, where someone is saying how awesome they are as a group, how happy should workers be that they are they.
Nobody forces you to do overtime. You get coffee breaks, lunch breaks, leaves, duvet days, maternity leaves, paternity leaves, holidays. You get fair pay and are treated nicely. IF you decide to stay overtime, you get an overtime rate. If you work on weekends, you get paid weekend overtime. Weekend evenings? You would definitely not complain. And if so - you still do not have to do it. Nobody will force you to. This is all law-regulated, because it is not socially accepted to get trampled upon. Working in big corporations also often means housing, insurance (health and dental), phone, car, even computer.
But then again, that tend to be very different depending of the mentality of people in each country. I do not necessarily think that our planet would be a nicer place without big corporations. I think it would be a better place if governments would actually make proper laws about how employees should be treated in these corporations making rejecting holidays, unpaid & forced overtime, overstressing, overworking and generally being treated unfairly things of the past.
People are not unhappy because of corporations. Or loans. Or mortgages. If there wasn't a corporation where somebody works and afterwards don't has time for relationship, he could had worked in the shop and be tired either.
And not every corporation is bad. There are Google, Apple, Adobe, etc. They create really good products, think about environment and people. And simply put, life'd be difficult without banks and corporations.
I do agree that people working in corporations are usually tired but to be honest every demanding job will make you tired. I think that more important fact that has influence on people tiredness is the peoples approach. Of course their approach depends on company culture and as we know, corporations often do not treat their workers well. That’s why they feel tired and have problems in relationships etc. Of course our planet wouldn’t be a better place to live without corporations. Imagine how many people have job thanks to them, we should rather think about changing things like company culture.
Corporations involve people to start living for them. Like your life is based on the condition of corporation. Maybe destroying the corporations won't solve the problem, but their approach to the workers can.
I don't agree that we are slaves of corporations. People are not forced to work in one of them. Many of them decide to work for big companies with obvious reason - good money.
It's hard to imagine the world without corporations. they bring to world many good things like smartphones, debit cards etc. Nowadays it's imposible to live without any of these.
"What would happen if somebody removed all information about loans, mortgages"? good question, I always wondered what happened after Fight Club's members blew-up all the credit buildings at the end.
I do think we live as slaves today. We learn on history lessons that these poor peasants in medieval Europe had to pay 1/4 on all personal property and income. Today we must pay to the government in various forms of taxes and insurances well more than that. Banking mortgages are certainly also a form of slavery. It is often very difficult to get out of the contract and you are forced to be chained to the place with a burden of debt for 30 or more years.
Yeah, your introduction is quite fair, but Idk if we can change something. Huge corporations are based on such office workers and as a consequence these corporations create service industry in most Western countries. As we know, this industry takes a position of the most important and desirable part of any modern economy. I am deeply confident that no-one would led you to overthrow the system.
Corporations is just representation of people. People is the root of whole problems we have got so far. That is the main objective of the series - to show that the problem is not in corporations but in people. And to change that you have to change people rather then corporations.
Well, what do you suggest to put instead of corporations? I've heard about those, who have tried to divide wealth equally between everyone. Sounds good, dosen't work, as Trump says. What do we need is to make them really work for the society, not only for the good of their CEO's. This will be the right approach, in my opinion.
I agree with your introduction, but not maybe in 100%. Daily work influences our lives, I think it is obvious. On the other hand, you can for example travel with money you earned, so working in corporation isn't 100% evil.
In my opinion world couldn't exist without big companies. We, as society, should put a pressure on them to work for us and to make our world better.
I can’t completely agree with your introduction, yeah corporations exploit people but it’s not because they are corporations per se but it’s because of people working in them. I don’t think that people working for big corporations are more exploited than people working for small companies like local grocery shops.
No, I don’t think that our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations. Corporations boost our economy and give a job to hundred thousands of people. I don’t think that any of them would be happy, if they lost it because some random person decided for them that their company is “Evil” and decided to destroy it.
I think that is is not problem that big corporations exists. It is problem with our social and political system. In the most of countries we have democracy which cause simple problem - everybody can lead. It is easy to buy such people and what's then? Big corporations have power to change laws and they have tools to influance on our life.
I feel that we should change our mind and we should understand that democracy not protect us as human from these days world problems which we have to face. If we have people who can lead in the countries and be responsible for they acts - it can easily protect us from big corporation's influance.
Neither you can just say goodbye to corporations and blow them up, smiling to the applause of a folk you freed from loans and mortgages(and perhaps from their work too).
Almost every(!) revolution causes more pain for country then gain of it. February Revolution in the Russian Empire, for example, had wiped out of existence a lot of scientists all over the country. Every revolution in Ukraine brought more problems then solutions and made everything only worth.
By the way, I think that the real problem is rather in people themselves. Everyone should be aware of how economy works, because it's a part of their life. Better educational system can resolve a lot of other problems as well, so I would rather invest in this area.
I don't really agree with that introduction. It is showing corporations as one and only evil of this world. People who aren't working in corporations are also often tired and it may affects they relations with other people as well. If we hate corporations, then why would we use their products? I doubt that a person who wrote this intro isn't using any of the large companies gadgets or hardware. We can blame them for many things, but we also have a lot to thank them for - they make our lives infinitely easier. Just imagine, how life would be though without help of one of the largest companies in existence - Google.
As stated in the previous paragraph, I think that life without corporations would be pretty though now that we got used to so many things created and provided by them.
I will definitely watch Mr Robot right now:)
I kinda feel the same about corporation but there are some "good" that creates new things, and useless focused only on making money.
2. I have had worked in corporation and i liked it a lot so i can't agree with your introduction. Corporations are not bad. How many good things we got becouse of them. The problem is with people leading such companies, with greed and willing of power.
3. Without corporations? Nope, without human qualities mentioned above, for sure.
I watched a few episodes mr. robot. This series is very interesting, but sometimes very unreal. This, however, prompts you to think of even unreleased things that may be available in the future. This series presents a number of everyday computing issues that are often overlooked by many employees, which is often seen in the show.
In answer to the last question, I agree that our planet would be better without the corporation.
Would our world be a better place without corporations? Maybe, maybe not, as I mentioned before it all depends on us to make changes that will try to mitigate the damage that our species did. It all went wrong with agricultural revolution anyway, so why not try something new.
Can we imagine world without corporations probably not because of years inside corporation controlled society, but our grandparents probably can go ask them what they think about those for some it will be worse for others way better. I dont think that having to wait weeks for products to be aviable would suit our society and thats one of the problems corporations solve steady continuous supply of goods all around the world.
2. I do agree. Why?Constant rat race, poor treating of employees and greedy and power hungry bosses. Do ireally need to say more?
3. Yes i do.
First three episodes got me very interested and I really wanted to watch the next one very fast. After seeing three next my expectations went completely the other way.. It was a pure computer series and later ended to be lame just like many others...
2. Do you agree with my introduction? Why? Why not?
Hmm cannot say - about loans, mortgages... That is why those are still on paper and not just in the IT systems.
3. Do you think our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations?
Corporations have good and bad sides. You would not drive a car with full warranty and specified standards (Opel, VW, Chevrolet, Honda) or use YouTube or even eat the same sandwich in every Country (McDonalds, Burger King) if there were no corporations at all. Just like in corporations - think BIG :)
You know, corporations are more strict than start-ups for example, but you don't have to work in it. There are a lot of opportunities. Personally, I don't like that rat race and I will not work in a corporation.
"Do you think our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations?"
I don't know. Corporations are here cause of our needs. Can you imagine life without a smartphone, internet connection, etc.?
I agree with this introduction. I know many people who are living fast and they are running and they don't know why. It's sad and i think that now it's kind of art to have the ability to stop and rest.
The world desires more and more money, people are very ambitious. Maybe too ambitious? We live in a society dominated by consumerism. Our world is running, and not everyone is able to catch up with it. I think that it was with Mr Robot. Although he was outstanding in what he did, his psyche did not keep up. I think about that if world without it will be better but i think that no. Problem is in people not in progress.
While we kind of are slaves to the corporations we simply let them into our lives, we’ve allowed them to.
I’m not sure if our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations. Different? For sure, but how different it’s really hard to say.
I am not fully agree with above mentioned statement, I think its too early to declare that " We are slaves of the corporations and banks". In my opinion, corporations are natural "phenomenon" in our society. I can't imagine world without them - our governments are big corporations, also I think it's stupid to call every corporation evil. I don't know how we can change it and should we do it at all. But , I definitely worry that people behind those really enormous "corporations" have too much power.
No, I think it's terrible idea to go backwards. I don't believe, that planet would be a nicer place to live without corps., don't forget that people manage corporations and there will always be powerful and powerless people . Problem in us.
On the other hand they are not forced to work there - this is their choices. It depends on us how we use our free time.
Sometimes people have to learn separating work from their real free time.
Well, I have never worked in a huge corporation, neither my family or close friends did. And, to tell the truth, I would avoid it as much as possible. I am more into arts and freedom. Cant imagine such a work. And I hate banks and all about it. So, yes, maybe for me the world would be a better place without corporation. Or there would be a total chaos. Nobody knows. But I also know, that some people are in love with their crop job. So it all depends.
I don't agree with you about corporations, because I'm working now in one and don't feel exploited. I think that the myth about corporations exploiting workers remains in the past. Now many of them are trying to provide proper circumstances to their workers, especially IT specialists. For example they allow programmists to work in any space, even parks, homes etc.
I don't think that the world without corporations would be a lot nicer, just everyone would work in their small companies, which sometimes takes a lot more time than corporations. Besides, everyone has choice, people can go to work in corporation, but also in a small company, or even to found their own business.
I've never seen Mr Robot as I just don't watch TV series. I somehow agree with the intro of your presentation, however I , myself, haven't experienced such life yet (fortunately). Corporations nowadays want people to sacrifice their lives for work. They start building kindergartens, gyms, supermarkets inside their bulidings. It is a great convinience for people working there but it makes you spend most of the time in a place where you work.
About introduction: really interesting and I'm more interested in watching it.
Corporations these days are like country but without a land. They have their own culture, specific language and power of influence. I'm not sure if we are slaves but many people think so.
Does our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations? It's hard to answer yes or no because I have no idea how would our world look like without corporations. Propably after destroying all corporations some people will build their economic empires. So corporations will still exists.
I’ve seen Mr. Robot and I like it. That tv show is worth of recommendation. The serial keeps you in suspense, and is unpredictable. I know that third series is recently available, but unfortunately I haven’t had time to watch yet.
Do you agree with my introduction? Why? Why not?
I partially agree with you but I think people trying to lead their own business are also „always in the work” and with comparison to corporations the salary is lower in small private sections. Furthermore in corporation, when you are hired based on time, you make your 8 hours and go home, everything else is up to you.
Do you think our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations?
In my opinion world without corporations would be slower and less civilized. Without communication, and transport people would live in their cottages like in tribes. But maybe then we would be happier.
2. Do you agree with my introduction? Why? Why not?
3. Do you think our planet would be a nicer place to live without corporations?
Yeah, I've seen Mr. Robot and it was a blast! I love this show, first ever tv show, an entertainment production, which sticks to the facts about how computers, networking and most of all the skewed (by other tv shows and movies) image of hacking. Anyone watched first movie about hackers - "Hackers"? Computer viruses eating up files as a pacman animation or a rabbit multiplying itself? Or an NCIS hacking episode of two people hacking using one keyboard? I/we needed something real and Mr. Robot delivered. Real, actual command line, real life examples of security exploits, vulnerabilities, events, approaches, possible situations of breaking into or defending against an attack. Much respect for the directors.
The first season (following seasons are sadly a downfall in the plot) focuses about corporations or rather one big worldwide corporation - Evil Corp. The exaggerated form of such a corporation is crucial to show what's it really about. In the first 2-3 episodes it reminded me of Apple, the 'E' sign everywhere, like an apple sign everywhere you look (United States at least I imagine). Corporations are not evil itself but let me remind you their goal is to make shareholders/stakeholders happy, by any means neccessary and rather often than not in a questionable ways or methods of doubtful ethics. So when they say they do something for the greater good or to make our lives better, easier, more eco friendly, I call it a bull. There are corporations more wealthy than whole countries. The influence they make or can make frightens me.
I don't think it is possible to "live without corporations", I think it is inevitable to end up with just a few of them in the end, ruling over us ;)