For the last few weeks there has been many discussions among politicians from many different European Union countries about immigrants from Northern Africa. Poland will be probably forced to accept a few thousand people from that unstable region of the world.
Do we know who those people are ? Could we be sure that terrorists won’t take advantage of placing their “spies” in our country and in future make terrorists attack ? Is there any possibility for those immigrants to integrate with our community and to be useful for our country ? In my opinion we should answer those questions before even starting discussions about the number of admitted immigrants.
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Do we know who those people are ? Could we be sure that terrorists won’t take advantage of placing their “spies” in our country and in future make terrorists attack ? Is there any possibility for those immigrants to integrate with our community and to be useful for our country ? In my opinion we should answer those questions before even starting discussions about the number of admitted immigrants.
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The most popular way for immigrants to get to Europe is across the Mediterranean Sea. They pay gangsters for slots on primitive boats, which transport people from Africa to EU countries like Italy, France or Greece. During such illegal journeys hundreds of people are in danger of drowning in the sea, because those boats are old, overflowing and without proper crew.
Is it really the best way to solve their problem by admitting them? They don’t speak Polish and English – most immigrants speak French, they don’t have any prospects for a legal job in our country. We will have to pay for their maintenance in our country for many years. Many people forget: those people are criminals, because they tried to cross EU boarders illegally. Should we really give them rewards for that?
As a highly developed group of countries EU has to help those people. They are living in really dangerous part of the world and we are also responsible for helping them. But in my opinion we have to find another way of doing that, better than allowing them to stay in our country, for our money.
I'm interested in your opinions about that situation. I'm waiting for any questions and I will be also glad to take part in discussion about that.
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Another thing is that we signed the Geneva Convention which is the agreement between many countries thats tell us to give a help for people who are at risk of losing a life! Would you like to be in a similar situation?
sorry for polish link Mrs Świerk :)
I’m reading your article more and more and I don’t know more and more :/ They are criminals- you wrote it about them. They have true reason, that they want to live in our country. What is it? They don’t speak Polish and English, it might be the problem but it mustn’t.
On the other hand, may be you’re right. We should help other people like Christians from Syria. It is life or dead for them.
Of course, nobody wants to be a similar situation to them
How many Muslim men do you know and how are they treating women in their environment, in their families? How many Muslim women do you know and how they are raised and treated?
As for the article. Must a woman always obey her husband? Why are you asking Muslims this question? Let me cite you the Bible:
1 Timothy 2:11-14: Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
And tell me, what is the level of domestic violence in Poland? How many girls are raped by their uncles or neighbours? Who is doing this? The only few % of atheists, Muslims and Buddists in Poland? I don't think so.
Judging people based on their religion is a really unfortunate idea.
And we are not sure that those immigrants will be islam-free. They can simply pretend to be non-islamic. Because jihad is one of the most important pillar in islam lying is allowed thanks to “taqiya”. I read and watch a lot about muslims in Europe and we are lucky being homogenous society. There are many Polish exiles on the east and they should have priority instead of Africans.
To be clear, I’m not against immigration in general. I’m against muslims. They don’t assimilate in new society and always force sharia law. Chinese also have problems with integration, but they don’t behead innocent people on behalf of religion.
For you girls above, who advocate muslims, check out statistics about rapes in Sweden and watch e.g this soft content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo . Do you still want to live among those dumbasses?
But let's put the Muslim issue aside, I also think that EU telling immigrants to go specifically to our country is unfair. I suspect those people might have had some contacts somewhere in Europe (like friends who emigrated earlier) and that was their true destination, and now they are probably going to be stranded here. Imagine you wanted to emigrate to the United Kingdom and suddenly someone tells you „no” and places you, let's say, in Greece or Portugal. No offense to citizens of these countries, it's just an example.
I am against muslim too. I am convinced that wering burkas(?) shuold be provibited in Poland...
What now? We will invite these people to Poland and Europe so ISIS can spread faster?
Besides, pardon me, but Poland is not a Christian nation. Christianity is a dominant religion, but the country is secular and not connected with religion.
First of all, many people escape their country because of violence or wars. Do you know how many people escaped from Poland during World Wars? And still, your first question is, if these people are terrorists or spies, and if they can be of use for us? What if there was a war going on in Poland right now and you wanted to take your family safely to other country, and you would hear "Hey, stop right there. You may be terrorists or spies, we won't let you in"? That lack of empathy is just terrifying.
Secondary, pardon me, but it's really ignorant to think that all immigrants from East are radical countries are radical Muslims who beat their wifes or try to spy on us. Of course, I agree there are several cultural differences, but don't you think it would be wiser and more humane to consider how can we help them blend in and respect our law? Instead, you ask in the comments, if someone would like to have a Muslim for a neighbor. You know what - I wouldn't. It's not person's beliefs that determine them, it's their behavior.
Maybe this will be shocking news for you, but people from East or from Africa are people too. Some of them can be Muslim, some of them may be lazy and not wanting to work, some of them may be thieves. But, hey - there are lazy people and thieves in Poland as well. It's plainly illogical to assume otherwise.
And no, I'm not saying "let's all pay for immigrants to come to our country by billions!" - because I realise the economical and cultural dangers. All I'm saying is, read objective sources. Educate yourself of East cultures and revise your belief that they're all dangerous. Analyse the data. Think of the economic side. If you're worried they won't work here, think about the ways we can provide them with work. And show them some empathy. They're people, just like you and me, and you refuse to aid them just because you believe they can be spies. That's really childish and unemphathetic.
These people fled with ISIS, but why to Europe?
Specific part of it, is that terrorist threat will not exist in Poland as it exists in France. You are pretty catholic state where others have to accept your views, I don't know for how long the EU will not try to put a pressure on you to spread all that 'every one has right to praise the god they like' stuff like it was in Italy (when some woman decided that all those crosses and other religious things are trying to indoctrinate her kids with radical ideas that were unacceptable for her). So I think if those immigrants from muslim states will appear your people will break them just because they are not that happy that some guys that are not able to say word or two in Polish decided that their views on allah and all their stuff should be respected and put as number one priority. Every act of terrorism will just make you and your government more tough against those immigrants so probably very soon it will be like in Japan - 'Muslim or from Africa? You are no good here'.
I don't want to sound racist, I have a few friends who are muslims and they are pretty descent guys who respect Poland and its laws, but I hope that your government will not allow illegal immigrants from Africa become a part of your society - we can see what is going on in France or Belgium (yeah, there are some blocks that are under control of immigrants and it looks like a total garbage - a lot of trash, stink and all those people that don't know the state's language, damn it, they don't know any language besides their mambo-jambo, but at the same time they request equal respect while acting like barbarians).
In reading some of the comments I get the impression that not everyone understood the topic. This presentation is about illegal immigrants and not about immigrants at all. Immigrants from the East in Poland are legally and it is clear that Poland should help such persons.