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Week 12 [15.06-21.06] Neanderthals


Practically everyone of us must have heard about the Neanderthals to a greater or lesser extent. It often happens that the first time we make association, we think of backward ancestors not much different from our monkeys today - nothing could be further from the truth. In this short film, everyone who thought so will see how wrong they were.

It is very possible that Neanderthals, as one of the first in the history of our world, started to practise something that could be a prototype of our present culture – they wore ornaments in the form of necklaces and buried their loved ones in something like a grave. There is also much to suggest that they were using a kind of speech. Probably most of us are not aware of this, but a large part of our current society may possess up to 1-2% of the neanderthal genes.





Questions: 
1.     Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?
2.     Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?
3.     What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?

Comments

1. To be honest, I've never wondered who I am related to and who I am not with. Of course, we know that man is strongly associated with animals - mainly monkeys. It was the years of evolution that shaped today's man. Unfortunately, sometimes it happens that people still behave like animals.

2. I didn't know that the Neanderthals created culture. In addition, I learned that they were the first to commemorate the dead members of their tribe. I thought the burial and decoration of the tombstones came later.

3. Maybe it was some unknown virus? :) Although in my opinion, the theory that suggests that Neanderthals were absorbed by other tribes is true. It certainly wasn't a meteorite or other disaster, because we still have their genes. They must have been the victims of evolution.
Kyrylo said…

Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?
Homo sapiens sapiens, modern humans are the only race that survived those times. They could not breed with each other so any relation to neanderthals is not possible.
Which of this information has interested or surprised you most?
What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?
War between races. It is estimated about six different human like species existed at the same time. They most likely were at a war with each other, which led to extinction.
Yubin said…
1. Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?
I have heard about Neanderthals on TV, but it was a long time ago, and I was not too interested in this area, so I’m not sure, I think that some of us may possess up to 1-2% of the neanderthal genes is acceptable.

2. Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?
I can't think of them wearing necklace-shaped decorations and burying their loved ones in the grave. This really surprised me, in some ways, it’s enough to show that they have a very modern personality, although they are not, it is so interesting, thank you for sharing this information!

3. What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?
This is only my guess, I think Neanderthals came to an end because they could not adapt to changes in getting food. For example, when the Neanderthals and modern people coexist, perhaps in good times, the two can still be evenly matched, but once they encounter climate fluctuations and reduced food, the advantages of modern people in cultural adaptation can play a key role. Neanderthals did not have such a strong adaptability, so the competition from modern people has seriously exacerbated the survival pressure faced by the Neanderthals, and eventually led to the extinction of the Neanderthals. I think this might be the reason of Neanderthal extinction. If so, it also shows the importance of social cooperation.
Viktor Ryś said…
1.
No, I haven't. I guess that when it comes to such long time it isn't really of any importance to who are we related to. There is this theory that there was some time, where there were a very limited amount of humans so each one of us is realated to those few humans, but it doesn't change our life in any way.

2.
I didn't know that Neanderthals commemorated the death of their tribemen.

3.
It was probably a mixutre of those 2 things, that is, they became dominated by modern humans, so they had to succumb. In effect a lot of them were killed and didn't make through history.
Roman Dubovyi said…
1. I knew that we are related. Even though experts say we share a small amount of DNA ~10-15%, some suggest that we may inherited some diseases from them. I am not very happy about that.

2. I did a presentation on this subject last semester, so I didn't find out anything new this time :).

3. I think that we killed them. They seem to have survived ice age, so I don't know what else may have killed them. Maybe it was a Neanderthal specific disease also.
1. Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?

No, I really don't care about it and it isn't interessting for me to see the connections of genres that made me. I would like to live my life and make my future without going to this time of past that I haven't seen

2. Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?

It's pretty fascinating that they really made culture

3. What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?

There could me many possibilities I really don't have idea what caused their extinction
1. Yes, I think we're related to Neanderthals. I suspected that to a similar or maybe even greater extent than the movie gives. It is good to consolidate my knowledge.
2. I didn't know why the Neanderthals had this nose shape. In addition, I probably did not expect that Neanderthals already adorned the graves of their loved ones with flowers.
3. I think there are many reasons why they become extinct. Partially they were probably killed by modern people, partly mixed with people.
Andrzej Kawiak said…
1. Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?

I think most of us are related to the Neanderthals. Our species have co-existed for over 300,000 years. The latest research clearly shows that. By analyzing the available material, scientists have created a morphological model of the dentition, which belonged to the common ancestors of the Neanderthal and the rational man. Thus, they proved the essence of the common ancestor.

2. Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?
This information doesn't affect my life, I just take it as a curiosity. It should also be remembered that the gene exchange was not the only direction. This gene flow was in both directions. Neanderthals in places where our species lived together. They have human characteristics.

3. What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?
In my opinion, this species wasn't bending. Only in the result of the crossing, it faded. There's a very big article on wikipedia about it. Our species have mixed up. I read about it in a book: The Neanderthal man is still alive
1. Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?
I have never wondered about it. I think nobody on earth has much in common with this species. I am as Homo Sapiens as one could be.
2. Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?
Every one was interesting for me. It is hard to choose only one. I think most interesting was the fact that they used necklaces without any particular reason, just for the sake of it
3. What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?
I have no idea. Maybe harsh weather could have something to do with it. They were also bigger than Homo Sapiens, so by analogy because mammoths extinct due to their sizes so Neanderthal people could as well.
1. I have heard about the Neandertahals before. Since they were sentient beings for that time I think sapiens have common things with this species one of them are unsuitable survival and the creation of tools and using them.
2. Each fact was surprising for me. I underlined some of them like :
1. they were the first species created tools from bone,
2. they created things served ornamental purpose
3. they created the oldest cave art
4. carring out the symbolic gesture of burrying their dead
3. I don't know, but as I heard (not sure that it might true) that they just assimilated with sapiens.
1. Of course, I was aware of the Neanderthal relationship to us. If they are our ancestors, we must have many in common attributes.

2. None of this information was new to me. I studied Neanderthals in geography and history lessons.

3. The reason for the extinction of the Neanderthals was probably a virus. Their immune system was not sufficiently adapted and they went extinct.
Klaudia Kozioł said…
1. Not really, but I think that there is high possibility. The theory that the Neanderthals were parring with Homo Sapiens sounds very likely for me and knowing that my own family tree is not only from Poland I guess that yes, they might be my relatives.
2. I have heard this informations before so none of it surprised me, but I admit that the fact that we are able to compare our DNA and DNA of the Neandertals who lived million years ago is really impressive.
3. Personally I think that this could be more of evolution by pairing with homo sapiens than total extinction, of course there could be some kind of wars between those species but if they had fully extinctic we wouldn’t have, even in small percent, their DNA.
1. Well, I haven't thought about it like that. However, I knew both theories, so in a way, yes, I did assume that I could be related to Neanderthals.

2. It is a coincidence that I just spoke about it recently, so almost all the facts shown in the video was known to me. But there is one exception, I haven't heard about this handprint on the wall. Is it older the Lascaux? If yes, that is amazing. I need to research that.

3. I prefer the second explanation, the one that assumes that Homo Sapiens just mated with Neandertals. There were probably some fights between those species, but I don't believe those would be so severe to whip out the whole population. Especially, since Neandertals were better adapted to the environment.
1. Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?
I have known that we might be related to the Neanderthals, it is nothing suprising about this. We are homo sapiens he was homo Neanderthals we have some common genes. The evolution of human species is not a myth. There were about 400k years ago, now it is time for us.

2. Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?
One of the facts which has surprised me is that they were wearing a necklaces. It is really weird for me that, they were thinking about it, on the other hand probably it is just our primitive instinct to stand out or be better.

3. What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?
The nature is probably the reason of their extinction. They can not resolve the problem which they had to confront.
Hello, here are my replies to your questions!

1. I've never thought about it myself if I'm actually related to the Neanderthals, but I've heard theories in the past which mentioned possibilities of Homo Sapiens breeding with Neanderthals. I'm pretty sure most of nowadays humans have at least some genes in common with them, if not most of them. So yeah, we probably have something from them in us.

2. I've heard about all of these facts before and I learnt a lot from my trip to the museum in Bolzano. But never the less, te video was very interesting and reminded me of some things which I've forgotten about.

3. I think it was a mix of many things. Evolution, illnesses, wars with Homo Sapiens... It's no mystery that our species likes to fight with everything that is even slightly different than us. Also nature itself could have played a big role in their extinction.
1. Have you ever wondered that you might be related to the Neanderthals, and if so to a large extent?
Probably if i thought about it before maybe i would say to that. But i have never thought about it so it was nice to hear that we have mixed genes with Neanderthals.

2. Which of this information has interested or surprised you the most?
I started to think why Homo Sapiens get rid of Neanderthals if Neanderthals were in some sense more developed species? The information about migration of homo sapiens made me wonder.

3. What do you think was the cause of the extinction of the Neanderthals?
I have no idea. And as said in the video there is no answer to that questions. Maybe Homo Sapiens was more tricky.

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