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Week 8 [13.05 – 19.05.2019] Vaccines

WHO provided an updated list of global threats to mankind, for the first time entered the refusal of vaccines. According to the organization, this trend threatens to reverse the process achieved by vaccination in the fight against disease. It is known that vaccination is still one of the most cost-effective ways to prevent the disease and today saves about 2-3 million people a year from death.

1. Are you vaccinated ?
2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated
3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
 (Some can not be vaccinated due to allergy or etc)

Comments

Adam Sukiennik said…
1. Yes i am vaccinated for only obligatory vaccines.

2. In my opinion They don't know about a risk of getting deadliest illnesses, or illness which is expensive in cure.

3. It isn't nessesary becouse vaccinated children would be protected from ilnesses, that's why They could be mixed.
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes, I' am. Back in a days when I was young there were not clubs like flat earth or anti vaccinated and I think that most 90's kids are vaccinated.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated
First of all, their children should be in separated kindergartens. Also isn't vaccinated in Poland obligatory? How those parents are able not to vaccine kids?

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?

I think so, because they are dangerous for other kids.
The fact that these days we actually NEED such a video is terrible. Years of medical studies have led humanity to the point of highest life expectancy on the record. While thousands children die in developing countries, simply because they have NO access to vaccines at all, children id developed countries die because their parents have too much free time.

Something tells me that these are exact types of people that believe Earth is flat.

Yes, I'm vaccinated. I went through all the vaccinations.

It seems to me that parents who do not vaccinate should not be punished. Untreated children will someday reproach them, and perhaps the child's anger is the worst punishment for a parent.

I have no opinion. I believe that everyone should be vaccinated so that no infection or disease will arise. If people have brains they should use it.
Nataliya Tkach said…
1. Are you vaccinated ?
As far as I remember, I was vaccinated in my childhood, no one ever thought to vaccinate or not, it was necessary.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated
Parents write a waiver of vaccinations and they take all diseases under their responsibility. I would have made vaccinations mandatory. Maybe fines would help. Some even do not drive to doctors and most importantly they are proud of it.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc? (Some can not be vaccinated due to allergy or etc)
I know that in Ukraine they have already begun to prohibit unvaccinated children from attending school and kindergartens. And rightly so, if there is an epidemic of some kind of disease so that it doesn't spread.
Anton Medvediev said…
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Ewelina said…
1. Yes I'm vaccinated. My parents vaccinated me when I was a child.
2. I honestly don't know. They should definitely know that they are putting their children's lives at risk.
3. Maybe they should go to another class. Honestly, they are probably the most vulnerable. Vaccinated children will not get sick.
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes, i am vaccinated. Thanks to my school and my parents the did it without any hesitation. Honestly, i don't know people in my ages who are not vaccinated.
2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated?
To do it. Never too late.
3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
No, it is not necessary, so if my child is vaccinated, how he can get sick from another non-vaccinated person ? I don't understand. It is all about children, who are non-vaccinated, how many diseases they can get.
1. Yes, I went through all obligatory vaccinations as a child and now I am vaccinated against flu every year. Probably that’s why I don’t remember when I was seriously ill last time.

2. In my opinion it is not an individual decision, because such people bring dangerous diseases to whole mankind. Those parents should be punished in the way they would truly feel it. We must fight arrogant stupidity of the mob.

3. Those children who can not be vaccinated should be treated as an exception, but others who can be vaccinated but their parents decided not to – should be banned from attending dense groups of children but not because they are dangerous, but to force irresponsible parents to change their behaviour.
1. Yep i am vaccinated, and i love living, i haven't been ill for a 5 years now!
2. I believe that such people need to be marginalized and laughed at, and constantly reminded that a choice they made for their children can cost them life.
3. I believe that children are being a victim in this situation, and a pressure of some kind ned to be apllied to their parents and not the children.
Illia Lukisha said…
1. Are you vaccinated ?

I am vaccinated and think that this is great.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated

I don't know. I think that this should be like local policy, if you want to live or visit in certain area you should have some list of necessary vaccines. So such people can just move to other areas where their weird hobbies won't harm another.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?

I think it's ok. But using technic that I described above, I think it's better to give this people a choice just make them move to areas with other non vaccinated people. The only reason why such people are healthy today is because all other people around are vaccinated.
Zygmunt Z said…
1. Are you vaccinated ?

Yes, I am.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated

For example, their children may be banned from attending to schools for their lack of vaccination. Generally speaking, there should be some kind of law that requires every child to be vaccinated. Something that will force them to do that. Apart from that there could be some kind of series of advanced lectures about results that may come in case of lack of vaccination but on the other hand I am not sure whether these people would attend such meetings because nothing applies to them.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?

As I said in previous answer, yes they should be prohibited. Of course, there should some exceptions but these cases should investigated by an assigned doctor and not by anybody, especially by some charlatans.

Bartosz Barnat said…
1. Are you vaccinated ?

Yes I am. It was obligatory when I was a child.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated

I think that this type of parents make their children a charm. Other than that there might be many new diseases just because there are some people that won't be immune in some diseases

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?

Well I think it should be prohibited because they might get something bad from other children in a blink of an eye.
Yes I’m vaccinated. It happened yet when i didn't know what is vaccine. Happily this issue resolved my school from obligatory vaccinated every kid.

I think It’s the best thing in civilization world that something like vaccine exist. So I’m terribly fearful about some another children there are not vaccinated. Only we can do is propagate that vaccine is our ally in fight with diseases.

No, It’s necessary to propagate knowledge about how vaccines are works and how they have side effects. We must fight with unawareness and ignorance dissemination from people who don’t know about action of human body.
Answering your questions:

1. Of course, I am vaccinated when I was a child. Can't remember my age. This was one of best choices my parents made. Thanks for them!

2. It's really very difficult question to answer. Firstly, I'd know the reasons why parents do not want to vaccinate kids, then I would try to explain the advantages of the vaccine, eg in my example. It is always better to try. If the parents are still stubborn, then I give up.

3. In my opinion - yes. Non-vax children might get something bad from other, and disaster is ready.
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes, I'm vaccinated, obviously.
2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
Not vaccinating your children is dangerous not only for this kid, but also for the people around it. Some vaccinates can't be done for the really young children, so if they will have contact with non-vaccinated child, it can catch some horrible illness easily. Vaccines are not only about protecting ourselves, but also protecting people around us. Non-vaccinating parent should pay high fines. Unfortunately, taking non-vaccinated children to the school is extremly dangerous. It's not their fault, but they have to pay for their parent's mistakes ...
1.
Of course I am. What kind of question is that?
2.
If they do this intentionally they should lose custody. No exceptions. This is just ridiculous to even think about not vaccinating your child.
3.
Yes. Viruses in unvaccinated children can mutate and infect healthy, vaccinated kids so it's crucial not to mix those two groups.
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes, I have been vaccinated regularly for years. I believe that the obligation to vaccinate children is good.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated
Honestly? I do not know. I can not imagine how much one should not care for their children, not to immunize them and prevent them from possible diseases. In the same way, all sick events, during which children get infected with a disease are deliberately unthinkable for me.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
(Some can not be vaccinated due to allergy or etc)
In my opinion, this is how it should be. Schools may not include this because children already have some kind of immunity. However, in the case of kindergartens, in my opinion, a ban on admitting children without vaccination should be introduced. It is a deliberate exposure to the health and life of not only your own child, but also others who are found in the environment of a child who is not vaccinated. The only exception should indeed be children not vaccinated for health reasons.
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes of course. I think this is very important. Many refuse vaccination due to a lack of confidence in the quality of the vaccine. But in my opinion, you can always find a way out.
2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated

Nothing. They themselves are responsible for the lives of their children. We do nothing with pregnant women who smoke and take drugs. This is their choice. The planet faces overcrowding. These people just help natural selection.
3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
(Some can not be vaccinated due to allergy or etc)
As far as I know, a vaccinated child should not get sick, it means that not vaccinated people do not carry him a threat.
Adam Nguyen said…
Yes, I am vaccinated I went through all obligatory vaccinations.

I really approve of the move of Italian government. Italian children have been told not to turn up to school unless they can prove they have been properly vaccinated and parents are risking being fined when they send their unvaccinated kids to school.

As I mentioned above. The unvaccinated kids could easily spread diseases to other unvaccinated kids, so in my opinion it is important to prohibit them from attending schools and kindergartens.
It is very interesting. A month ago, I watched this video on YouTube. This is a very interesting topic for fucking discussion. Vaccination is a small dose of the virus, so that the immunity remembers the virus and knows how to deal with it in the future. I was vaccinated, it was necessary for all without exception. I do not know what the consequences for those who do not vaccinations. Never thought about it. But I know what vaccinations to do, I wrote why. Although it is very dangerous for a child. Controversial issue.
Of course I am, that should be obvious and unquestionable.
What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated ?
I guess it is simple, natural selection. This is how our world works but what is worse that they are not doing harm to themselves but also to the people who are vaccinated. Viruses are waking up and starts to mutate to defeat vaccines.
Yes, i think anti-vaxx children should be banned from public spaces and then maybe parents will see that they are doing wrong.
This topic makes me really angry and there are no arguments that will change my mind about vaccines as they should be obligatory. ( Very good post :) )
1. Are you vaccinated?
Yes, I was vaccinated as a kid like most people in old good time
2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated
You can try educating them but most of them know better and will no listen but maybe some will change their mind. If you prohibit their children from attending preschool and force them to stay at home that will help also
3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
Kindergarten is not mandatory so yes, they should prohibit them from attending it’s not like they go there often, most of the time they are sick
1. Are you vaccinated ?

Yes, I am. I have all the obligatory ones.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated

I think the main problem is, that those parents don't have enough knowledge. I think the government should educate those people, provide some services and explanations. We should spread the knowledge and understanding of vaccines as far as it could be.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?

I think yes. It is dangerous to allow them to attend schools/kindergartens etc. They could spread the disease to others and put other's lives into risk.
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes, I am vaccinated.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated?
In my opinion, parents whose children are not vaccinated are scared because of disinformation around vaccines. The government should provide information about vaccines to all parents. Also vaccines should be obligatory to attend kindergartens and schools.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
I think that vaccines against the most dangerous diseases should be obligatory, as it could be dangerous not only for their children, but also for others who contact with them.
s18716 said…
1. Are you vaccinated ?

As far as I remember, I received all the necessary vaccinations as a child.

2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated

Yes, I heard a lot about the fact that in the modern world there are a lot of opponents of vaccination. Someone relies on the fact that it harms his child, and someone for religious reasons. Not quite clear. It is necessary to inform in the right way for such people that it is necessary to some extent. That is, somehow improve their medical literacy.

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
(Some can not be vaccinated due to allergy or etc)

I think this is not necessary. Since this will suffer only those who did not receive vaccination. If in such public places the majority received the necessary vaccines, then they have nothing to fear.
In my opinion, many people are misinformed about the true situation with vaccines. If they were not sold by someone and did not cost money, I would have certainly agreed with the fact that vaccines are necessary. But I believe, like with most of pharmaceuticals, vaccines are means of making profit and are most commonly pushed to the people. We are not as sick as we are told.
Of course I am vaccinated and I think that parents who do not vaccinate their children are stupid and irresponsible, but unfortunately there is nothing you can do to them because they are their children and they take responsibility for them. I think it is a good idea to do a vaccination requirement for children attending public schools.
Yana Lytvynenko said…
Yes, I am vaccinated, like all children, received a vaccine complex during elementary school and kindergarten.
If parents are so afraid of to vaccinate their child, then that's their problem. Since if your child is vaccinated, he may not be afraid of the virus and children that are not protected from the virus.
Moreover, as stated in the video, if the child is not vaccinated, then the society can protect it. So I do not think that it is necessary to prohibit children from attending schools and gardens without vaccination.
Personally I see this new trend of anti-vaccine movement similar to the one where people believe that earth is flat. I was inoculated andy child will be as well becouse right now vaccine is the best prevention from disease that not so long ago killed hundreds of people. I'm not sure what should be done with people that share this rather dangerous opinion that inoculation is worse then actual disease. Natural selection perhaps? I fell bad for children that might be badly hurt becouse of bad choices of their parents but sometimes when I look at part of our society I feel that they cannot be encourage no matter what. From what I know vaccine should protect inoculated children from disease even if they come in contact with sick person or in worst case scenario they will be able to overcome the sickness becouse of endurance that vaxx provide.
Yes, i am vaccinated. When i was young, it was obligatory and it should stay that way. Parents who not vaccinate their children are a threat to our community. There is absolutely no reason to not do it. Children that are not vaccinated should be prohibited from any place where there is a probability of catching a virus. It is serious problem. Due to these kind of people, diseases that once was marked as non existing are starting to becoming a thing. (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/diseases/child/14-diseases.html article for research purpose). It is seriously dangerous and i cannot belive that people do this on purpose.

(Due to technical difficulties, i am forced to post comment using diffrent account)
Mateusz Burzyński
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1. Yes, of course.
2. It's hard to come up with something that is consistent with the constitution. :)
3. Yes, it is taking care of the health of other children.
Anton Medvediev said…
Poland obligatory?
yeah u are right, thx for the comment:)
Anton Medvediev said…
Thx for the comment:)

Agree with u, i think it's bacause of bad use of internet, someone is hear that is vaccine is a bad aaandddd WATERFLOOOOOW:)
Anton Medvediev said…
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Anton Medvediev said…
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"Ukraine they have already begun to prohibit unvaccinated children from attending school and kindergartens"

and it's nice
Anton Medvediev said…
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Anton Medvediev said…
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We must fight arrogant stupidity of the mob.
aha, i think it's the biggest war and all time war in the world :)
Anton Medvediev said…
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Anton Medvediev said…
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agree with ''they might get something bad from other children in a blink of an eye.''
Anton Medvediev said…
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knowledge about how vaccines are works

it's hard, believe me :)

it's like hype over flat earth
Anton Medvediev said…
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Anton Medvediev said…
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agree with u
Anton Medvediev said…
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nice way
Anton Medvediev said…
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Anton Medvediev said…
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aha, sorry man that give u to feel some angry :)
Anton Medvediev said…
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Anton Medvediev said…
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agree with u
Anton Medvediev said…
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agree with u, it's hard when people can't even go throught internet and read some articles
Anton Medvediev said…
All of comment's i wrote from another email because our pjwstk mail is down
Maciej Sadoś said…
1. Yes, fortunately I am like everyone I know. Thanks to my family and school everyone in my family and neighborhood is vaccinated.
2. In my opinion firstly they should be warned and educated and when it’s not enough their should be punished. A high fine would be appropriate. Their decisions are dangerous and harmful for the society so they as parents should be watched to vaccinate their children. Those kids should also be educated as soon as possible to not have some false convictions about the topic.
3. On the one hand I could say I would be for it but if we think about it, this could create many clusters consisted of only non-vaccinated children. This could be really dangerous. And as it was mentioned in the video, non- vaccinated children could function in a society safely only if they are surrounded by enough vaccinated children. So they should be somehow distributed in various groups of vaccinated children.

1. Yes, as fas as I know, I was vaccinated to all the mandatory vaccines
2. When parents choose to not vaccinate their kids they’re taking away opportunities from them… because they’re putting other children at risk. Every school should educate parents that vaccines are a necessity for keeping society healthy. Personally I think they are a pretty fantastic example of human innovation.
3. Education is a constitutional right, so it would be nearly impossible to ban a child from going to school but maybe parents should be fined if they send their unvaccinated children to school.
Peter Clemenza said…
1. Are you vaccinated ?
Yes, I am
2. What to do with parents for the fact that their children are not vaccinated
There are a lot things, electric chairs? breaking wheel, to be honest there should be some consequences

3. Is it necessary to prohibit anti-vaxx children from attending schools, kindergartens, etc?
(Some can not be vaccinated due to allergy or etc)
The point is, that the more children wont get vaccinated - then the diesese will keep evolving and mutating

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