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Week 11 [15.01.2018-21.01.2018] Terrorism & Mass Surveillance

Surveillance is almost everywhere around us. But does it really makes the world a safer place?


1. "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." Do you agree?
2. How do you think the future of surveillance will look?
3. Should we have more or less surveillance in our lives?

Comments

Unknown said…
Every person has something to hide, something that you don't want someone else to know that. But if this information will be checked only because of terroristic reason, and it can be garanted that no one will have access to this information then it's okay for me that antiteroristic organizations have access to it.
Eh I don't really agree fully with it, but I don't strongly disagree either. I believe the government should have an insight into what we're doing, but only to some acceptable degree. On the other hand, with properly designed system we'd be able to invent an automatic system that would scan itself sensitive data and alarm only when something potentially harmful is found, without direct access to everything else by just a typical human. Personally I like this concept, since I >do< appreciate my own safety, even if it'd take a portion of my privacy, but there is still a point when we need to stop, since every government wants to have as big surveillance as possible.
Unknown said…
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."
Usually when you are at home, you have nothing to hide but would you like anyone to watch you? I don't think so. When it comes to me, I don't really like mass surveillance, because it's tempting to use it in a wrong way. Governments can use it against its enemies, huge companies can use data about you only for profit. However, I really support idea to use mass surveillance to detect incoming terrorist attacks and that's there reason I would give away some of my privacy. The surveillance is not a bad thing as long as it's not overused.
Unknown said…
I have never heard that someone doesn't have to hide something. All people have something and if this secret not dangerous for everyone then nothing to fear. I think in the future surveillance will look like: A.I. will be more intelligent and will be surveilling for us. A.I. will be faster to find who and what wanna do.
We should not do something dangerous for everyone and anyone doesn't surveillance for us.
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." - If u have nothing to hide u have nothing to live for, because u have given up on everything already.
Future of surveillance is now your phone spies on you , your fridge spies on you, your dishwasher spies on you and all of that you agreed to for sake of convince. Companies know more about u than you do.
Do we need surveillance in our lives in a first place ?
Unknown said…
In the west we have example with new surveillance. Everywhere police on new year party. Now I think that we are surveillance everwhere. I think that somewhere are infromations about us . where we were and what we did. I think that our computers , phones, smartwatches collect all infromation about us. I think that is's inevitable. One way to stop this is turn pff all electronic devices which are conect with internet.
Filip Sawicki said…
I do not agree with the first statement, we are living in a democratic country and this is against constitution and human rights acts. Every citizen is a free individual who cannot be invigilated by any country. Apart from edge case situation when the court allows for surveillance of one dangerous person, the state security service cannot force everyone to submit to them. I hope that our future won’t look Orwellian and the people will strongly protest against surveillance.
Unknown said…
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Unknown said…
Everyone has a right to have some private information and I don't agree with the statement that a state should control every our step. It seems to me that during struggling with the world terrorism some intelligence services want to take the control over our cell phones, pc data etc. Modern form of terrorism is unpredictable as it was for example in France 2 years ago when the terrorist killed lots of people driving a lorry. Who could prevent it? on the other side I d like to mention Israeli experience. If you have ever been to Israel you know what it means landing or departing in the airports there. So this question remains open
Unknown said…
1. "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." Do I agree? Nope. Just look at the missuses of power from police in USA.
2. Well that depends. For some it will be torment. For some other it will be another day in their lives.
3. In my opinion? We already have to much things watching us at the moment.
Alicja said…
Thanks for touching on this topic. It is very interesting. I'm not sure about this particular video though, because it has a very strong British left-wing bias (coming together with a vehemently anti-American attitude). Terrorist Surveillance Program introduced by Tom Ridge that is mentioned in the video was unfortunately a necessity and its ongoing development has helped to detect many instances of terrorist activities. Similarly, such programs in other countries, including the UK and European security networks. Due to the reality of the threats we will require such programs whether we like it or not. The countries will also do ethnic profiling, because it works. It may not be a politically correct thing to admit, but it is the fact. The things that Israel was previously criticized for by the ultra left-wing UK groups (like profiling) is now a standard method of security threat filtering and the reason why the UK has prevented many attacks.

I think we already have an extensive surveillance done by the manufacturers of our hardware and software. It is not necessarily a governmental initiative. It is a result of businesses having a capacity to do so and being greedy. Already now everything we do on a device is known to the manufacturer: our exact location at any time, our habits of using the devices and what we actually do with them - including every single message, picture or vid we send.
I agree with a statement, not only because i have nothing to hide, just because we are living in a world where you can't hide anything. I believe that there will be no borders and everyone will do anything he or she wants. Less surveillance definitely will be better. It is not about us, it is about people who are on top of the world.
Unknown said…
Thing is, it cannot be guaranteed that your information within government hands is safe. I'd say it's even less safe as various examples showed how incompetent a government agency/body can be.
Unknown said…
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." Do you agree?
I do not agree with that sentence. I think everybody should have right to privacy. Right now we are observed in the largely.
How do you think the future of surveillance will look?
Maybe surveillance will decrease under the influence of people, but that is bright vision. I think it will go deeper.
Should we have more or less surveillance in our lives?
We should have no surveillance in our daily lives.
Unknown said…
Great vid from the Kurzgesagt once again.
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say" - E. Snowden.
Imagine a reality where every step, a say, move, thing, you do is being watched, recorded and archived. Imagine that the law became so strict that you can go to jail for even thinking "I'd kill for that cake! It look's so delicious!". Crossed a street in a wrong place? It's been recorded and a fine is already being applied to your bank account. Said something funny which can be interpreted as wrong or current law bans it, on the internet? Shared your political views 5 years ago and todays, different government is looking for citizens that might threat their next election? Knock, knock, "police, open up". Nobody will care if you didn't do anything wrong because everyone will be scared and oppressed enough to just keep their head down. Orwell's 1988, Minority Raport, Black Mirror anyone? Can't imagine anyone would like to live in such a world. Mass surveillance doesn't solve terrorism problem. "Looking for a needle in a haystack, adding more hay to the stack isn't going to make finding the needle any easier" - Kurzgesagt. Terrorism is just a nice excuse for the incompetent governments with hidden agendas and hunger for power. What's sad is that giving up our freedom is less and less the choice of society.
Jakub Lisicki said…
We don't need any further research on a ways how to undermine our freedom. We don't need abusing of the laws created with a different purpose either. The sentence mentioned in the first sentence implies that there is absolutely nothing wrong about the government having a complete control over our personal data. After all it's people who have access to all these gathered data and they too, can missuse them.
The future would look pretty terrible if there weren't and people or fundations that care about our rights to the privacy. Governments pretty often doesn't know what are the specifics of the IT security and demand things that are pretty often impossible to implement at all. Thanks to these people though, we are still looking to the future in which we wouldn't feel oppressed.
I wouldn't agree on having more surveillance in my private life, I already think this is too much. That's why I'm doing my best to have all of my data encrypted (even if not so important.)
1. "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." Do you agree?
Yes and no. Because you do not know who is on the other side and it is not always a good person. Some ideas, intellectual property should be secret to everyone except me.
2. How do you think the future of surveillance will look?
I am afraid of it because currently our phones collects so much data that I do not know what will be next.
3. Should we have more or less surveillance in our lives?
More of a good way of using it - in schools because it would stop bulling and bad behavior of children at classes, in buses to prevent from crimes etc.
Unknown said…
If you have nothing to hide, they will find what you are hiding anyway. All this surveillance obviously can make your life safer, but as always, there are people that can abuse it on their own purposes.

I think the surveillance in the future will be look like one in "1984" with the only difference - we won't know about it. Big Brother will be watching you and you won't be able to recognise it, just imagine it.

I can't answer that question. The whole concept of people watching other people, because they see them as potential threat is frustrating. Probably, we should left things as they are now and try to fix what is wrong with humanity first.
Tomasz Morawski said…
I don't really agree. There are many things we can fear of and it doesn't mean we're hiding something. Sometimes surveillance may be used for mean things.
I think we'll be monitored on every step in near future and the data about our life will be analysed to determine if we're potential criminals.
I believe we should reduce surveillance and use the money to educate people about self-defence and how to behave in dangerous situations. It'd be probably more useful and safe for everyone.
Foodocado said…
I don't agree with this sentence. I believe every of us has something from which is not proud of. I believe everyone should have right to privacy. After all, I think we won't be allowed to have one. Every aspect of our live will be monitored and goverments will know every our move. We will be monitored 24/7. It's quite sad but inevitable.

I don't agree with this statement, and certainly not fully. Surveillance in the future will certainly be greater, but it should not exceed a certain degree. It's known that knowledge about people is very valuable, what they search for, what they have and what they are looking for. You need to know the limits of privacy and security, and allow them to be kept.
Unknown said…
Yeeey, it's Kurzgesagt again, I love their videos :)
Yes, it's useless to spy on people on the Internet. You may have terabytes of information, but how to find something connected with terrorism and prevent this? People cannot search it, and algorithms don't work properly. Just look at the new rules on YouTube. Your video will not get the monetization if you use controversial words in the name/description/tags. For example, if you name a video about taking a picture of a bird "how to shoot a bird", it will be controversial, YouTube won't like it. But how can it diminish terrorism? It's weird.
And it's awful if someone (FBI or just hackers) can turn on my web camera or microphone without my permission. Not because I want something to hide, but I can be naked (while changing clothes) or so. Or I can talk to my friend about something that bothers me and I don't want anyone else to pry.
I don’t agree with this sentence. It’s a weak and stupid explanation why somebody can intrude my privacy. I don’t know how the future of surveillance will look in a future, but I’m terrified. I think that it will be much worse than it is even today. I think that we should have as less surveillance in our lives as possible.
Andrzej Gulak said…
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Privacy is a complex topic in a post Facebook society. People willingly publish so much data about themselves you hardly need to spy on them any more. Unfortunately at some point someone despicable decided he can use that data. Hence began the practice of scaring your own citizens into allowing you more and more power to control their very lives. It's a truly disgusting practice, but we live in a world where the country of freedom is it's main exporter. One day we might once again find ourselves in a situation where people have to rise against the powers that be to defend the rights of an average citizen.
Unknown said…
I won't answer question by question, I will only comment on what the FBI forensic expert Stephen Flatley's reaction to Apple changing the hash iterations from 10.000 to 10.000.000 (amoung other security measures made). What Apple did recently made password guesses much slower, and also made Stephen 'lash out' at them, calling them "Jerks" and "Evil geniuses". It might seem like a bad move, but I do personally think it is very good. I do want my things to be private, no matter if they contain sensitive data or not, and I think this is what we should pursue. This, in my opinion, goes for all the surveillance.
Unknown said…
I don't agree with statement that if I have nothing to hide I have nothing to fear. I think everybody has something to hide, even the most righteous people. What we hide is not always something illegal. I think the future of surviellance will look as people would like to. I think in the next decade the areas of surveillance will increase, but that will make people angry, and people make that surveillance vanish. I think survaillance is good when someone thinks that he is in danger.
Unknown said…

I don't agree with statement that "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear". Any of embarrassing material about us can be use against us e.g. in our job because our subordinate would give revange becouse of our decision or something like that. I don't have problem with camers on our roads and I feel more safe in a place where we have cameras. I think that we should have more surveillance in public places but any kind of surveillance in private places and for me it is golden mean.
Magdalena Popek said…
The martial law in Poland showed us that even if you have nothing to hide you don't have nothing to fear. As it was said the antiterrorism law was used against protest over a climate change, which has nothing to do with terrorism. I'm afraid surveillance can be overused. Of course the government can tell us it is neccessary, people will believe it makes us safer. I don't think less surveillance is going to happen. Rather more.
I love Kurzgesagt’s videos. They are so beautifully made.
I don’t agree with this quote. Even if you have nothing to hide, people like to know that there are situations that are reserved only for you and people close to you. As for future of surveillance I’m afraid the information will become so easily accessible that everyone will be able to know everything about people around them. I don’t know if more or less if the question I think that every marketing analysis should be totally anonymous.
Unknown said…
>"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." Do you agree?
Let's paste the second part of this phrase - "you have nothing to fear... So why don't you post your web browser history to your facebook wall, or send everyone your account ballance?". I think you get the point.

>"How do you think the future of surveillance will look?"
Of course it goes in the bad way of "overlords and all-seers", but its all for our safety >:D. There will be either an all-time monitoring, or you will need a special permission to be put off the hook.
>Should we have more or less surveillance in our lives?
I think that the current amount of surveillance is enough.
Unknown said…
Hey, Idk if any1 noticed but the video you posted was stolen and you gave us link to the shady one. I do not feel comfortable watching it and answering your questions.
Magdalena Popek said…
Yes. Next time make sure you share the video from the original channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9_PjdU3Mpo
Unknown said…
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.". I totally disagree. We have the need to own our privacy. Many people have the need to feel special. Secrets give us a sense of uniqueness.
It is very sad that the world robs us from private space. And if it doesn't happen something big and it doesn't change the course of events, all signs are going to get worse.
When it comes to security, it's good that the authorities have some control. But if something does not bring results and robs us of privacy, then it is cruel.
All of us should have the right to privacy, since we all have things in our head about which only we need to know.
i guess so ...
I have mixed feeling about this statement. I mean of course you have nothing to fear when you have nothing to hide but no one would like to be tracked or watched when you are at your own home. But in general i think that it's a good idea. The more technologically advanced we are, the more surveillance is developed. Of course no one like to be surveillanced, but if it comes to our safety i think that there must be some level of surveillance.
Yevhen Shymko said…
Terrorism it self killes far less people then alkohol for example but got much more media coverage since it's people nature to be exited by negative information more then positive. I wouldn't be that surprised if terrorism if not created by government but not prevented on time might be a cruel way of controlling the population.
I agree: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." Because I have nothing to hide. Well, except that pirated games and software. Of course, I would not want my correspondence to be read, but they do not learn anything from it. 90% of my correspondence is complete stupidity. I laugh with people who close the camera on laptops. Even if you assume that you are being watched. Good. And what will the observers see? How do you put your finger in your nose, and then eat snot or eight fat folds under your chin? Very important information that will prevent the attack.
Unknown said…
I do have nothing to hide from the government, but it doesn't mean I would be cool with the mass surveillance. I think that most people would feel uncomfortable with being watched, and it is the normal reaction. If you can't have your privacy, you are not safe. I don't even want to think about it. It is so unfair, that you are not treated as a person, that there is someone above, who can just invade your personal space without letting you know... Surveillance could be comfortable for me only in public places. But I would better use a sticker for my web-cam at home.
Unknown said…
Almost everyone has something to hide. Something bigger or something smaller. However, not everyone deserves to be found out about it... I'm afraid that someone can look into our apartment through a laptop or TV... Unfortunately, I think that in the future it will grow... People will be controlled more and more... I believe that surveillance in our lives should be more balanced. It should focus more on the real threats.
Marcin Derlatka said…
Oops, that's bad, thanks for letting me know. I think the Blogger's "link a video" feature pointed to this one instead of the original.

Anyway, you could watch the orignial one and still answer the questions ;)
Wojtek Protasik said…
I don't agree and I think it is a very low argument to justify surveillance.
I guess we will all give up our privacy in exchange for goods as we do now.
Personally, I don't like being monitored, even if there is anonymous data collection.
Unknown said…
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I think that the problem of terrorism is a creation of a mass media and of government. Bad people happen in every religion and nationality, and soon humanity will understand it too.
Unknown said…
Total control and monitoring of every movement in life of a person. I think that this is rather violation of rights than the way to fight against terrorism. But what measures should be taken in a modern society to be protected from terrorist threats or suicide bombers? Of course, none of us wants to be invaded by his personal life, especially since such information can be used against ourselves, and not to fight terrorism. Modern technologies control any daily actions of an individual person. When we use a mobile phone, book a hotel or an evening in a restaurant, we use the services of an online bank. All this information is recorded. If someone had access to this database, it would be possible to decompose the activities of a particular person, every minute on the basis of his geographical location, economic status, interests and activities.

Not only government, but also commercial companies collect information on people. When shopping on the Internet and watching ads, for example. This information is sold and earned on it by money, and the problem with terrorism is not solved.
Wojtek Kania said…
1. Well, this sentence is obvious. But I'm not fear. I just don't want that somebody knows how much I earn, or where I'm going on holidays.
2. I think the worst thing for our privacy is prohibition of crypto algorithms.
3. I think we should have less surveillance in our lives.

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