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Week 11 [15.01.2018-21.01.2018] The Limits to Growth (1972)

The Limits to Growth is a report describing the findings of a computer model, created by a group of scientists led by MIT graduate students, which simulated the possible outcomes of exponential growth with a finite supply of resources. Authors based their research on 5 variables: population, food production, industrialization, pollution and consumption of nonrenewable resources. These variables were following an exponential growth while the technology, which could mitigate the aforementioned risks, grew only linearly.

Source: https://www.thenation.com/article/limits-growth-book-launched-movement/ (As of 14/01/2018)
 The conclusions the researchers came to were as follows:
  1. "Given business as usual (BAU), i.e., no changes to historical growth trends, the limits to growth on earth would become evident by 2072, leading to "sudden and uncontrollable decline in both population and industrial capacity.""
  2. "Growth trends existing in 1972 could be altered so that sustainable ecological and economic stability could be achieved."
  3. "The sooner the world's people start striving for the second outcome above, the better the chance of achieving it."
As soon as the report was published, it received a lot of negative criticism from every possible source. Attacks were carried from both left and right, even the Catholic church got involved by mocking the idea that overpopulation could be a problem. However, most of the criticism came from entrepreneurs and economists, to whom the given conclusions emerged as threat to their way of life. While some of the criticisms were valid, most of them were poorly constructed and their focus was put on  unrelated matters. The report was positively acclaimed by some groups, but I believe that the most accurate critic was time itself.

While many things have changed in the past 46 years, one thing remained constant. We haven't changed the way we live. During this period humanity became more aware of the struggles ahead, we started to invest in renewable energy, The Limits To Growth: The 30-Year Update was released and the Internet was born. Still, we've been increasing the extraction of oil, population is still growing at rates that are unmanageable and it seems like no one has the will or power to stop it. When we compare the scenario of LTG with the real-world data we can clearly see the similarities. I find it amazing that such a simple model could predict the future of such a complex system as planet Earth.
Solid lines: MIT, with new research in bold. Dotted lines: LTG 'business-as-usual' scenario. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-to-growth-was-right-new-research-shows-were-nearing-collapse (As of 14/01/2018)
To summarize, I would like to emphasize that we will never know what the future will bring. We can only use the available tools to try to mitigate many negative changes that our species brought upon this planet. Unfortunately given the space constraints I couldn't delve further into the topic, but I would like to direct you to my other presentation, which presents finely made animation, that explains a lot of issues related to limits of growth. Feel free to ask any questions!

Questions:
 1. Have you heard about LTG before? What is your stance on it?
 2. Do you think it is possible, knowing the greed of our species, to stop the growth and lead   sustainable life?
 3.Do you know of any similar scientific papers or works of fiction revolving around the concept of  finite systems and struggles that come with them?

Further reading (and watching):
 1. The Limits to Growth (1972)
 2. 40 years after LTG - YouTube
 3. World of the Future 

Sources:
 1. https://www.thenation.com/article/limits-growth-book-launched-movement/
 2. http://www.sustainable.soltechdesigns.com/cassandra.html
 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth
 4. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-to-growth-was-right-new-research-shows-were-nearing-collapse

Comments

Unknown said…
I've never heard before about LTG and any other scientific papers. It's not easy to cleraly reply to your question but I think that the trouble is, the Earth isn't the only thing in the universe. If the cost of extracting raw materials from the Earth increases, the incentive to extract them from the moon and asteroids increases as well. Research into Thorium and fusion may help with energy problems. Some economic growth isn't dependent on increased use of resources. Computer chips are more powerful now, but don't use much more silicon. Software in particular can improve without using much more than human thought and the occasional shot of coffee.
I've never heard about LTG before, but I consider it a very interesting topic. We're greedy by nature and I think it'd be very hard to actually agree on one thing and ensure better tomorrow for ourselves. We usually wake up with the issue when it's already too late, and I'm also sure that in this case we'll start doing something when we'll already be struggling heavily.
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Hey, thank you for your response! You touched on 2 important topics, which I would like to comment on, because while the outcomes of their use could potentially mitigate many of the problems, I don't think there is enough time left to deploy them.

Firstly you make a good point that the Earth isn't all there is, which is correct. If we ever manage to overcome many of the technological problems with space travel, then outer space could possibly sustain us for a little bit longer. The problem though is that we don't have such technology. You say that we will extract resources from moon and meteorites, but as of now the biggest thing we brought back from space was a 11.7 kg rock named Big Muley and it was back in 1972. That was the whole point of LTG, all of the variables are following an exponential curve, while new technologies are introduced linearly.

The other point you make is also valid, but same as before there is no technology as of now to produce electricity from these sources. Sure, there are some thorium-based nuclear reactors, but I think all of them are used for scientific research. The idea of having thorium and fusion energy have been there for a very long time, even longer than the time there is left according to LTG.

The problem is, that in a growth based society following capitalistic ideas, the only things that matter are the costs. It's much more cheaper and profitable to extract oil from earth than to put money on scientific research. One last thing I would like to state is that even if we manage to extract resources from outer space and have fusion power to fulfill all the current needs we would still be growing and facing the same issues up until a point were we just won't be able to resolve them. That's the beauty of infinite space.
I believe there are a lot of people around the world who are already struggling, because of the climate change, pollution and food shortages. What is sad is that our mind is constructed in such a way that most of the time we don't care when the numbers of suffering beings is very high. I can't remember the name of the studies, but they showed that people are much more eager to help, when there is only one child with cancer than when there is more. Thank you for your comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation.
Maciej Główka said…
I've never heard about LTG before. To be honest, I agree with this research. I think we can see clearly, that there are more and more people on Earth and our planet is starting to have problem with that. We should do whatever we can to start decreasing the growth, use more renewable energy etc. Unfortunately, with Trump, leader of one of the biggest country in the world, negating global warming, this might be tough goal to achieve..
Tomasz Morawski said…
Very interesting topic :)
I've never heard about LTG but I'm glad I had a chance to read something about it.
Generally speaking, I think it is possible but it may be quite difficult. The overpopulation problem is mostly caused by the poorest and the least educated. It'd be hard to convince them to stop breeding, especially when their children are the only option to have safe future :)
Unfortunately I don't know any scientific paper about this topic but I'll be glad to find one.
Jakub Lisicki said…
I haven't heard of LTG before, but I've surely read some of the reports and watched the documentaries about this subject. There are a lot of resources which at the moment can't be substituted and are used at such a large numbers that we soon will run out of them. What do we do to stop that? Most of us - nothing.
We will not stop growing as a species. We are too ambitious. I don't see anything wrong about it, but we should also think about some more sane usage of the resources. We tend to ignore the fact of how dependent we are to them. We are using more and more reusable resources, but to substitute the most popular ones like oil, we would have to migrate to the whole different areas of our planet. This seems pretty impossible and for the most of people - unreasonable.
I have a feeling that Trump was elected as a president by the elites, who seeing that there is no way to stop the collapse decided to rape and pillage the Earth a little bit longer to have the final feast. Surely it sounds like conspiracy theory, but I like to think that everything is possible.
Overpopulation is one thing, but the environmental impact is much more important. No, the poor people aren't the problem, they will be once they stop being poor. That's the sad thing, average American has an impact on environment comparable to 30 Indians. Even if we got rid of all poor Africans, we would still be screwed.
I've never heard about LTG before but it's a very interesting topic.
For now I think that it is impossible to create a massive trend of stopping the growth. Most people see growth as something positive and desirable and they can see that with the growth their life level is increasing.
I don't know any other scientific works as LTG.
If we don't stop relying on growth, then we will most probably become another fossil of history. I also think that we won't stop growing, but not because of our ambition. We are just animals, that is carbon based life and because of that we adhere to the laws of nature. There is a law of nature, which states that every species that overshoot the carrying capacities of their environment will be brought down to more reasonable numbers. We like to call it ambition, but it just the case of not being able to control ourselves.
Unknown said…
Great article, never heard about LTG before but I'm glad I just did. I's interesting but saddening at the same time for me. So much research, scientific data and calculations and people still yell "naah that can't be true, we'll be fine, we just need more stimulation for economic demand so that we can endlessly grow". And more or less accuracy of such an old model with current data is staggering. In my opinion it is possible to make our world sustainable, to live in harmony with our planet not hurting it and still grow as a specie. It just requires so many changes in so many fields, many of which not so painless. With religion in the way of scientific research and irresponsible politicans leading our countries as of today, we are on the road to the worse outcome. It can change. But everyone has to do it.
I don't think the quality of life has grown over the past 45 years. Sure we have internet, smartphones and netflix, but at the same time we have lower quality of breathable air, polluted water and chemically changed food. We simply traded what really matters for entertainment.
I like to believe that everything is possible, although when it comes to stopping growth I think the only way of stopping it is total collapse. I simply can't see the people with power giving it up freely and people without it won't just stop watching netflix and start another revolution like in the old good times. Complementing the thought I find it interesting how people are so afraid of the possibility that 1984 future could become reality, while we are living in Huxley's Brave New World.
Unknown said…
I read articles related to the topic of overpopulation and our "apparent death" but I've came across this terminology for the first time.
Everyone deserves life on earth (okay, almost everyone).
Talking seriously, of course the future which shows the collapse of our world is sad. Mankind will self-drive itself into the grave faster than there will be a catastrophe from outside. The facts are that the greed of our species does not bode well and it is unlikely that we will change our mind so quickly.
But not everything is so bad: thanks to Ilon Mask, in the nearest future we will be able to create an dystopia on other planets. Except Pluto.
I want to recommend Christopher Priest's book "The Interverted World", it is related to this topic and can be interesting enough for you.
I have never heard of LTG before, but many times I heard someone's theory and just stories. It's a pity that many people consider this theory a joke. Draw parallels with the May calendar and similar theories. I believe in the theory of overpopulation of the planet. now I think that people are more than necessary. When I share my opinion with friends, they say that I think like Hitler. Although sooner or later someone must become a villain and forbid people to breed like rabbits. It is very amusing that, although the theory has already been scientifically confirmed, most countries are screaming about the demographic crisis. They organize many programs to increase the population. It is very strange. I very much hope that someone will take control of the world's population.
Magdalena Popek said…
No, I've never heard about LTG, but I've heard about the concept. I think it will take much more time than we have to lead the sustainable life. I can see it just by the peoples' approach towards no-meat and no-dairy diet. Even though it is one of the most unstustainable things people seem just not to care about it. Same with recycling or buying all the things in plastic. When you try to present them the zero-waste concept, all you can hear is "but it's more convinient for me to buy in plastic/to take a plastic bag". That's all. Only them and their ego. They don't care that by 2050 we can have more plastic than fish in the oceans. "But I always forget to take a reusable bag, so I have to buy a disposable one".

Unfortunately I can't think of any scientific papers revolving around the concept of finite systems.
Unknown said…
I've never heard about LTG but saw some other articles about the future of our planet.
Well, its not "greed", that makes us grow - it's in fact the point of life. We could ask the same questions to cavemans back in 100000bc - "Why not "quit" everything and GO TO BIESZCZADY?". We started as monkeys, built first weapons and erected first buildings, eventually conquered whole earth, where no other animal could stop us from ruling over even a small heap of dirt. We invented planes that allowed us to fly, boats that can get to the deepest places on this rock and rockets that allowed us to set our foot on moon. All of that because of this "greed", that kept us going during all that time- the need of conquering and acquiring new lands, the need of improving our civilization and allowing it to do new things, which previous generations could only dream about. Denying that would make us work like robots - "Do A and you will get B, so you can do A again. What for? I don't know". We learn, so we can get better jobs, so we can earn more money, and thanks to that buy better stuff. Why not just quit this college and EXIST for 2100PLN brutto in a shack? Isn't that also "sustainable life", which also allows more resources to be used by more people (communism intensifies - everyone is equally poor)?
I don't know other papers about it, but I know that its in our nature to push our limits and expand our civilization...
Well we are still monkeys, the fact that we erect buildings and have erections from Internet porn doesn't negate the fact that we need to eat and then excrete like other animals. By the way congratulations on finding the real point of life, you must be the first person to know the true meaning of the universe. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Honestly can't wait...
I wouldn't place my bets on Elon Musk, he is just another product of the mainstream technocrats. I will definitely check on the book you recommended, thanks!
I think that there will be no villain. Nature itself will bring our species to more reasonable numbers.

These countries are ruled by politicians that need masses to vote for them. It's especially easy to see with what pis is doing with Poland. They want more uneducated, stupefied by religion and united against a common, yet non existent enemy, people, so they can collect more votes.
Hey, thanks for the reply and really great to hear that you are leading a cruelty free life. As I mentioned somewhere before, the problem is that masses will always follow the mainstream. That's just how our brain works, we are primates after all. The only way I can see the changes happen is to get rid off all these plastic people we see on TV. As of now we are living in a society, where normal behaviors are shown as wrong ones and sociophatic/psychopathic ones are promoted to be a new normal.
I don't really see the problem. I give us 5-10 years until we develop a penicillin-resistant version of flu which will decimate half of the earth population. Not so long after we will develop cheap space travel so the problem of overpopulation will simply cease to exist. :D
Alternatively we might grow smarter, start using renewable energy, stop wasting water and other resources, and learn to take care of the planet without which we wouldn't be able to exist. The choice is up to everyone of us.
Don't worry! We don't have to invent any virus, because there are more and more antibiotic resistant bacteria thanks to our penicillin overdosing. As you said choice is up to us, but I don't think we have the means to change things like in the old days. To much surveillance and we became too dependent on all of these "advantages" of civilization that we believe we couldn't live without. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Unknown said…
Great article! I've never heard before about LTG. This is a really interesting topic! We will never know what the future will bring... I think that it is possible to stop the growth and lead sustainable life. However it is a long-lasting process. In my opinion, the renewable energy will be a very important aspect in the future. Unfortunately I don't know any other similar scientific papers or works...
I also believe that everything is possible, but seeing that we already are set for at least 2C increase in average world temperature and probably even more I just can't see how civilization will adapt to the changes of the climate. Civilization will most probably fall, humans and humanity might survive. After all we are all descendants from a couple thousand survivors that managed to overcome the big volcanic eruption that shattered the Earth climate. Glad you've enjoyed the topic.

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