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Week 4 (30.03-12.04) FGC – The Fighting Games Community

FGC – The Fighting Games Community

Source: http://static.zerochan.net/Street.Fighter.full.172203.jpg

I’m a big fan of video games, especially fighting games which, in my opinion, are very competitive and unique. In fighting games two opposite players compete with each other usually using one chosen character from the game’s roster. 
Compared to other types of video games they require very high agility, precision, quick decision making and ability to study your opponent, learn his tactics and take advantage of its flaws. 
On a higher, competitive level, fighting games are almost like chess.

FGC – Rise Of The Fighting Game Community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F15lBHqdrFg

One of the most prominent games from this genre are: Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken and Virtua Fighter, just to name a few. 

In Asia, USA, and some European countries there are big communities (called FGCs) that consist of skilled competitive players as well as tournament organizers. In some cases even the developers of those games contribute to the tournament scene, for example Capcom, Japanese developer of the Street Fighter series, recently has announced that the prize pool for Capcom Cup (a series of tournament in a league format) will reach half a million dollars! 

Best Of Capcom Cup 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU5qb-b-VVg

Members of the FGC often share their knowledge and tactics via YouTube videos, Twitch streams or many  dedicated websites. Some even provide live training sessions. If you’d like to check some of those, I recommend starting with the following YouTube channels:
  1. https://www.youtube.com/user/Miles923
  2. https://www.youtube.com/user/crosscountertv

Unfortunately in Poland the tournament scene or the FGC is nonexistent. Even though e-sports are very popular in our country (just recently in Katowice there has been held a major e-sports show/ tournament called IEM – Intel Extreme Masters, there were many games present but unfortunately no fighting games). 
Why is that?

For sure there are many factors but, in my opinion, the most important one are the Arcades. In USA and especially Asia Arcades were very popular in the 80’s and 90’s, and it was these Arcades where the fighting games originated from as highly competitive video games. In most Asian countries Arcades never went out of fashion, what’s more they are usually more popular than PC’s or consoles. Also because of Arcades the most popular controllers are not typical joysticks as we know them from consoles but rather an arcade stick which you can see in the image below.
Source: http://store.madcatz.com/Mad-Catz-FightStick-TE2-for-Xbox-One-001.jpg

In Poland, Arcades were unfortunately a rarity even in the 90’s - the Golden Age of Arcades and they didn’t survive at all, although sometimes you can find some single arcade cabinets in some venues. That’s one of the main reasons why fighting games are not so popular in our country, never mind the competitive/tournament aspect.

Because of all the above mentioned reasons – for the Polish fighting games’ fans, the only option is to spectate the major tournaments via streams or video archives on YouTube or to actually travel abroad to those tournaments if we’d like to compete.

Speaking of major tournaments – on July 17-19 in Las Vegas there will be held one of the biggest and most prestigious FGC tournaments in the world – Evolution 2015. I highly encourage you to give it a try and watch a stream of this event at http://www.twitch.tv/srkevo1


EVO: A Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NUrMQ1AslQ

Sources: 
  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game
  2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_arcade_video_games
  3. http://capcomprotour.com/announcing-capcom-pro-tour-2015/
  4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_game

Here are some questions that I’d like to ask you:
  1. Have you played any fighting games? 
  2. Would you be interested in attending a big fighting games tournament, either as a competitor or as a viewer?
  3. Why in Poland the FGC tournament scene is nonexistent compared to other European countries like France or England?
  4. Have you ever been to an Arcade? If so, when? And what are your memories of this experience?


Comments

Unknown said…
I have played some fighting games on many parties (Tekken etc.) and I think I'm quite good at them (or I'm just lucky in pushing buttons). I don't know if I would be interested in attending a big fighting games tournament. I'm really into video games but this isn't my favorite kind of them. I think I would rather go to the Starcraft tournament but actually I wouldn't mind watching a stream at home. Maybe if there would be a really, really huge tournament somewhere abroad I would go. I don't think there are cool, big tournaments in Poland. I've seen a supposedly big competition set in a cinema (Złote Tarasy), I guess in "League of Legends" (I'm not sure if that was it, but the game is quiet popular in Poland) and it didn't look very fun. As you've said tournament scene in Poland is pretty nonexistent. I've to an Arcade a few years ago, for fun with friends and I remember playing arcade games as a child. It's a good fun.
Unknown said…
I generally like fighting games because of the atmosphere. I am an experienced player, I was playing since 11/12 years old. By the time internet started being so popular and the connection was allowing to playing faster games I fell more into games like Counter Strike.

1. I have played fighting games a couple of times. I get easily very excited by those games because I always want to win. The part that I dislike about them is that often they are repetitive.
2. I would like to attend. It doesn't matter whether I would be competitor or viewer, it is important to me who would I be with and that's what really matters.
3. Maybe because the percentage of people living in poland is the highest for elderly people? Also, our country is poorer and that may have it's own influence. Not so many people get to play console in young age. People have to work hard to live and that makes it very unfriendly environment for gaming.
4. I have never been to an Arcade but I hope one day I will. There were 2 gaming events that I participated in, one was PSP Experience (it was right before launching the Play Station Portable console) and the other was an event organised in PJWSTK for Counter Strike Source competetive teams.
MartaSB said…
I love fighting games! I played Tekken and Mortal Combat, but my personal favorite is SoulCalibur IV. I just love all the different weapons! Graphics are pleasant to look at and I really like playing relatively small and fast characters like Xianghua.

Nah, I don't think I'm good enough to play in a tournament :) and I wouldn't be interested in participating as a viewer because for me all fun comes from playing the game. Or at least watch someone that I personally know.

I'm not really sure why the tournament scene is nonexistent... maybe there is just no sponsor to start the business? There are other, more profitable games to invest in.

No, I've never been to an Arcade.
I've played some fighting games, my favourite being Mortal Kombat Trilogy. I think they're fun because of the element of competition. However, I quickly discovered that in some games tactic fails - no matter how hard I've tried to defeat my brother using key combinations, he's always won by clicking all the keys randomly as fast as he could :)

However, I don't think I could spectate (or play) such games for a long time. I prefer to watch more tactical games or MMOs. Even though I'm not good at League of Legends, I really enjoy watching tournaments. I'd love to go to Katowice and see LOL tournament for myself. I even wanted to see it in the cinema (they transmitted it in Multikino) but sadly, tickets sold out really quickly.
Unknown said…
When I was young I played a lot of fighting games for example dragon ball series or street fighter and many more. Unfortunately I don’t find these game really interesting now. Not such time ago I had a go at the Mortal Combat tournament but all I was doing was button mashing. It’s hard to remember all of the strange combination and there is no time to think about them in game. All you can do is hit some buttons really fast and hope for the best. These games are all the same and they won’t change. I think that they lose in e-sport arena because they require a lot of knowledge in comparison with other games. The most popular games are fun to watch because they are team based. Even StarCraft can be really interesting because there are different ways to win which people can see. In fighting games everything looks the same and the main battle doesn’t seem to change so much. I think that arcade games in this days are more for spending free time and relax rather than be played at tournaments.
Unknown said…
I have played tekken and it was cool for a 10 years old kid hehe
I always thought that the key to success is pressing the biggest amount of buttons on the pad hahah :D
I have never been to any tournament nor arcade, I don't really have any experience :P
Anonymous said…
Have you played any fighting games?
Sure, the first one I've played was Street Fighter II when I was few years old, it crashed very often. It was the time when
game could not work for a month then magically start work. Then I played Mortal Kombat II a lot. The last one I played was Mortal Kombat 9 and it was great.

Would you be interested in attending a big fighting games tournament, either as a competitor or as a viewer?
No. I would have to train a lot and I don't have time for that. I am not intersted in watching other people play.

Why in Poland the FGC tournament scene is nonexistent compared to other European countries like France or England?
Cause Poland is retarded country on so many levels and to be perfectly honest: gaming is not valuable job as many others.

Have you ever been to an Arcade? If so, when? And what are your memories of this experience?
Few times when I was young. I like to hit punching bag some time.
Unknown said…
It's really hard to me to contribute to the topic seen in the presentation as I'm not a fan of any kind of games at all. I've never been interested in that kind of entertainment and honestly it doesn't seem like a thing which would be fun for me but who knows, maybe I'll try and enjoy it :)
Unknown said…
I do not like games. However if I had to pick my favorite it would be Mortal Combat. It is the only game I enjoy playing.
I think I would not like to attend any game tournament. I am sorry but for me watching how other people are playing games must be boring.
I have never been to an Arcade.
Marcin Lyzwa said…
When I was a kid I used to play Tekken, Mortal Kombat or games from Dragon Ball series, event today it is funny when you can play this game with childhood friends. But I'm not interested in attending a big fighting games tournament,
even as a viewer. It is hard to say for me why in Poland the FGC tournament scene doesn't exists, this is not my area of interest.
Unknown said…
I have played some fighting games in my life. My favourites include Soul Calibur III, Tekken V and Mortal Kombat IV. As a child I used to enjoy these games very much, especially when I played with my friends and could actually compete with them in virtual world.

I would rather attend the tournament as a viewer because my 'fighting skills' have become rusty over the years and I'm afraid I would make fun of myself if I tried competing there. Observing others play can however prove to be a nice way to learn how to professionally play fighting games.


Polish society is big on strategy and moba games. Community in our country prefers strategic approach and keyboard + mouse combination rather than button mashing on a gamepad.

I used to attend arcade as a child. All I can remember is that it was pretty expensive (for a child), playing one game for 10 mins cost me a fortune and I had to ask my parents for money and they weren't really happy about giving their son some coins which would be spent on button mashing.
Unknown said…
I have never played fighting games because I don't like them. In my opinion they cause agression and don't influence people in a good way. I prefer strategic and logic games, as they develop our minds. Referring to your questions I wouldn't be interested in attending any kind of games tournament. I have no idea why FGC tournamet scene doesn't exist in European countries.
I wouldn't agree with your statement, that fighting games cause aggression and don't influence people in a good way.
Actually time and time again many researches show that it's the other way around.
Games in general, lower aggression and can influence you in many positive ways, and yes, that includes violent or generally action themed games.

here's one of many articles that can be found on this subject - http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanshapiro/2014/08/27/a-surprising-new-study-on-how-video-games-impact-children/

Fighting games actually can improve your reflexes, accuracy, focus, tactical thinking as well as perseverance, pattern recognition and estimation skills.
Speaking of your favourite titles, soon (April 14th) there will be a release of the newest Mortal Kombat (10th instalment in the series) and some time after that (maybe during spring holidays or early next year) the newest Tekken - 7.

What's cool about that is that those titles will be avaiable on PC ! So you won't be forced to buy a new console in order to play them :)

Maybe you should give them another go!

As a fun fact:during easter holidays there was a Tekken tournament - held in London, with people from all over the world, and a Polish competitor reached 3rd place.

You can find archived footage of that event on youtube, here is one of the fights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgrNX5xPq_0
It doesn't have to be your job to compete in tournaments, many skilled competitors actualy have normal day jobs and still attend tournaments. Mostly because it's just fun and a good way to spend some time with your friends as well as meet new people.

FGC Tournaments are usualy quite diverse events which I didn't mention in the main article. It's not like you only compete the entire event. Usualy there are many attractions like cosplay contests, side gaming events (for example a chance to play on old, original arcade games with the whole cabinet intact) and many other.
On an entry level mashing buttons IS a key to success actually!

Fighting games are among the most accessible games on casual levels in my opinion, and they can be a really fun way to spend some time with your friends. You don't have to be a professional competitor to enjoy them :)

Unfortunately, there are no arcades that I know of in Warsaw anymore, but for example in Level Up bar on Moliera there are actual Tekken 2 arcade cabinets if someday you'd like to try it out with friends.
I agree that FG's might seem repetitive at first glance, especially if you aren't really into this genre already. That's partly because of the thing you mentioned - they require a lot of knowledge compared to other games. But in my opinion they get more interesting the more you know about given title, as there are many intricate systems and peculiarites found only in this genre.
Sometimes it's hard to appreciate something when you don't fully realize how much work goes into it.
But nowadays FG's did really step up their game in terms of presentation and being interesting for viewers(in both the graphics and the gameplay design).
I also think it's just the nature of FG's that they might seem repetitive compared to other games - after all you can say the same thing about marshall arts/sports like boxing, MMA or Muay-Thai
I'd like to also give you some examples of the diversity in the fighting games genre.

Guilty Gear - a 2D Anime Fighting game (fun fact - the newest iteration was made in full 3D but in such way that the graphics seem to be hand drawn/animated)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKGPhKu3jNg

Pokken - a 3D fighting game where you play as one of the pokemons, from the creators of Tekken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EF92j3g1pE

Injustice - Fighting game where you can compete using superheroes/villains from the DC Universe (ex. Batman, Wonder Woman, Joker)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGRcblXDaJw

Virtua Fighter - Fighting game that is more realistic than the others, uses real world fighting styles in gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rRI7IlQJAc

Nidhogg - a fun fighting game created in the style of 8 bit classics :) where play as a swordsman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaOocHXMhlU

Super Smash Brothers - a fighting game up to 8 players, where you can control most of the legendary Nintendo characters (like Mario!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb1m_wyB4bM
rf. said…
'Fighting games actually can improve your reflexes, accuracy, focus, tactical thinking as well as perseverance, pattern recognition and estimation skills.' sounds like a pretty bad argument, if you really think about it. You might as well say: bullying kids in school teaches you resilience and hard work. Playing arcade games improves your reflexes, but being exposed to drastic brutality (MK finishers) requires adult audience, same goes for other media (like movies).
rf. said…
I've played a lot of fighting games, from Mugen through console ones to Liero (I believe it might be considered a fighting game). I've played many causal tournaments with friends and we had loads of fun! Sadly I'm not a big fan of fighting games so watching a pro tournament would be boring for me I'd say. Lack of FGC in Poland is due to many reasons, some of them you mentioned yourself. Additionally I think that our media used to be very negative towards computer games as a whole, where shooters and fighting games are quite an easy target. I've been to arcades many times. When I was in primary school arcades seemed like they were intended for older audience, but by middle school they became meeting places for me and my peers. Metal Slug was one of the most popular games (rather than Tekken, we preferred to play it on console), while my favorite was (and still is) Die Hard
Fighting games become handy during house parties especially after "small" amount of alcohol :) when emotions take over and competition becomes hot, a lot of stupid / funny situations usually appear! In fact I wouldn't be interested in taking part in some serious competitions because it's not my cup of tea, however, observing serious players might be inspiring.
Unknown said…
I think that it is easy to understand team games rather then fightining games. When you look at fightining game you can think "what is hard to understand there"? People fightining and that’s all. It is not true.You need to understand all the moves and know every combo to enjoy the game.
Unknown said…
I've played some fighting games like Tekken, Mortal Kombat or Virtua Fighter. They are really fun to play, especially with friends. I remember arcade saloons from my childhood, they had really great atmosphere. Playing on an arcade machine was a lot better than playing any pc game!
Unknown said…
I'm currently reading all the comments seen above and that's such a huge surprise for me - I'm apparently in minority as I'm not into games at all, especially these with a lot of violence such as fighting games. I think that there's plenty of other activities that can expand our horizonts, interests and be an entertainment at the same time. Games are only a waste of time for me.
I don’t have much time to play game, but from time to time I play in Battlefield or oldschool age of empires and settlers. I case of fighting games I played very often in tekken on playstation when I was a child. I remember that we walked to internet café to play in this game. We paid for 5-6 hour, we played there all day. Fighting game it’s popular for tournament because it’s very simple rules and fantastic rivalry.
Unknown said…

I have played Mortal Combat, and some other fighting games with my friends on parties a lot of times, but I'm really not into it. I was never good at such games and, frankly, I have no intention to be better, this genre never appealed to me. However, I do like to watch others play fighting games. For me it's as interesting as watching traditional sports match. I wouldn't mind attending a tournament if there was one! But as a spectator of course. :)

I don't know why FGC tournament scene doesn't exist in Poland because I'm not familiar with this subject. Your explanation in the article seems convincing.

Yes, I've been to arcade a few times. It was in high school mostly I believe, and I remember I enjoyed it, especially the atmosphere of the place.
Julia Osiak said…
Fighting games are completely out of my scope of interest. I have no need to spend my time with this form of entertainment. Gaming in general is not something that would get me excited so I have never attended, watched or even heard of those tournaments. Even going to the arcade doesn't sound like something that I would be keen on doing.
Fighting games maybe are not my favorite type of games but they are quite fun and entertaining when you play with friends. I used to play a lot with friends in fighting games like Tekken, Little Fighter, Soul Calibur and others. But I rather prefer to play strategic games rather than fighting games.
I never had a opportunity to attend any game tournament, but maybe I will go next year to e-sport tournament in Katowice. I think that it might be very nice experience to participate in such kind of tournament.
I used to play arcade games when I was around 10 years old and it was really great experience and fun. From all arcade games probably my favorite one was metal slug.
Mateusz Frycie said…
Love those games... They remind me good times - summer camps, beach bars, drinking coca-cola from a glass bottle with a straw... and pockets full of coins!
Unknown said…
I do like to play video games, but i find RTS, RPG or even FFA more interesting than figthing games - so i would never ever go on tournament. Why in Poland the FGC tournament scene is nonexistent compared to other European countries like France or England? I have no idea, maybe because people in Poland arent big fans of fighting games?
I used to play contra (with friends) - and for me it is best FGC game ever :)
I don't like games so I don't play any. My boyfirend is more into them but nor crazy, thanks God:P I don't understand why people play video games, it is so boring for me. And some of games are just terrible, so violent. I think that kids should be more controled by theris partens. Recenty I've read an interesting article about female caracters in video games in "Wysokie Obcasy Extra" it was quite interesting...
I agree with Dominik, they definately cause agression. I don't play myslef but I see other people do it so...:P

And something from the Internet:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=901459799873214&set=vb.739586189393910&type=2&theater
I only enjoy playing The Sims when I have codes for moeny and I can arragne the interiors:P
When I've mentioned to my biyfirend that I 've never played Tekken when I was a child he sumed up that I had poorly childhood:P
Unknown said…
I’m not a fan of any kind of game.I have never played fighting games. I don’t like play a game so I don’t do it. I don’t understand people who attend fighting games tournament and other games tournament. I have never been to any tournament. I have never been a competitor or a viewer and I’m not going to be there in the future. I think that activities like this are very boring. It’s hard to me answer your question because I’m totally not interested in this topic :P
I like video games. I actually think them to be a superior way of entertainment to watching TV and some other very passive experiences. I have plaid fighting games only a few times so I'm in no way any expert but those few games I plaid had one thing in common - the feeling that there is no long-term character development, no item collecting, no interesting story. It was more like a fun way to spend an hour or two with friends on a party than anything else. I think that the problem with the nonexistent community in Poland is that if those games are to be taken seriously then there needs to be a community of people who take it seriously for people to join. Maybe if fighting game tournaments were promoted in Poland then some people who play those games well would participate and show other that it's a real e-sport, not some one-time party experience.
I personally like to play video games but I respect that not everybody has to like it, just the same as not everybody has to like reading books, photography or anything else. About the article - I haven't read that particular article but I would like to inform you about one thing - video games are a relatively new, very rapidly developing industry. Not everybody likes that, there are many journalists that would write almost anything, no matter how little actual truth there is in it just to get readers attention. I have read and heard a lot of false information about video games on the Internet and in television. A person who doesn't play games doesn't know what is true about them and what is not. Even some real facts which are not so bad can be present as something really terrible when a journalist wants it so. I understand that you may have read some terrible things about games, just keep in mind that not everything you read has to be true and things are usually neither black nor white.
Unknown said…
I've played some figthing games, but now I'm not very interested in playing games at all, cause I have new life goals and I have to reach them as quickly as I can.
But I think playing games can be a kind of relaxing for some people, so I'm not against that.
Unknown said…
Personally I do not like this type of game. I tried several times to play this kind of game. But always in a short time I was angry and I gave up. I've never been interested in the events in this type of games. After your presentation I learned a lot about this. Personally I do not I spend too much on playing. I prefer playing RPG or strategy game.
Unknown said…
I'm not a big fan of these kind of games, but as a child I played several times in the Mortal Kombat and Tekken. I remember that I never knew a combination of keys for special actions, so usually I lost with my colleagues.
I'm not familiar with this subject so I can't answer why FGC tournament scene doesn't exist in Poland. Also, I have never been to Arcade.

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