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Week 1 (09-15.03) Unusual names for children – how about Leonidas?

Some parents decide to name their children in an unusual (for some particular time and place) way. While in many countries there are basically no boundaries, in Poland there exists the Polish Language Council – the official language regulating organ of the Polish language. One of their main responsibilities is to set standards for naming children and expressing views on non-standardized given names.

A fun fact. The list of possible given names that are valid to choose for a child in the Polish civil registry comes from a book from 1983. You can find it under the following link(starting from page 84):

http://www.rjp.pan.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1129&Itemid=58

It is interesting that on the list of possible names for children in Poland are those derived from Slavic, Jewish and Christian cultures as well as ancient ones. Possible names are for example: Dobiegniew, Ezechiel, Klemens, Apollo, Herakles, Demetria, Dioniza or Kleopatra. 

Since then the Polish Language Council provided few additional documents that make this list even a bit longer, but the main set of names stays the same. It’s important to mention that all restrictions are valid only for children whose parents are both Polish.


Some of least popular names given in Poland in the last few years:

Girls:

· Aida

· Annabella

· Irina

· Karmen

· Ofelia

· Raisa

· Bernadeta

· Kamelia

Boys:

· Horacy

· January

· Lucjusz

· Modest

· Antoniusz

· Robin

· Anatol

· Rafael





Do you have an uncommon name? Would you mind if your name was more/less common?

Do you know many people with uncommon names?

What is the most extraordinary name of someone you know?

Would you give an uncommon name to your own child?

Comments

Unknown said…
I wish you could name your child anything you want (unless it's not any bad word). In America you can be creative and come up with your own unique idea for your own kid's name.

I wouldn't mind my name was more or less common. It would be interesting to have one but I don't think it would affect me so much. It is important to have a name that doesn't make you embarrassed. This is something that parent has to be careful about too, when deciding on more unique name.

I had a pleasure to meet a guy whos name was "Mieszko". It was pretty hilarious!

Other uncommon names that I've met people had were "Halszka", "Błażej", "Kunegunda", "Apolonia".

I would consider giving my child a name that is uncommon but it's not essential for me at this time.
Unknown said…
I don't have an uncommon name but I've met many people that did. Anyway I think that people abroad have much more freedom of choice when it comes to naming their children and names you mentioned in the text don't strike me as very unusual/uncommon or weird. I think it's fine that people get to choose original names for their kids. However I often hear about people in other countries mostly in United States that call their children some really stupid names. Some people just really shouldn't have kids. I've heard of some interesting cases on the topic.
Here is a site where parents made a poll so people could choose what their daughter would be named. I even voted on that. Anyway "Cthulu" was on the top for a very long time but eventually people chose the girl to be named Amelia Savannah Joy McLaughlin.

http://www.namemydaughter.com/pending.php

http://time.com/70292/internet-names-couples-baby/

And another case is about parents that named their son Adolf Hitler, "interesting" couple.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063487/Parents-named-children-Adolf-Hitler-Aryan-Nation-wont-receive-custody-newborn-son-Hons.html

I don't plan on having kids but supposedly I think that I would choose something that I would like but wouldn't give a child a boring (what every second child is called) name but I also wouldn't name it something really weird.
MartaSB said…
I totally agree that parents should be careful, but you can give a pretty common name to a child and other children can still make fun of him/her because of it.

I have a friend whose second name is Regina. There was nothing wrong with that name for a long time... till they started to advertise toilet paper Regina in the TV. It was nightmare for her (in grammar school kids can be cruel) and it wasn't even her first name. On the other hand there was one Fortunata in the school and she was very popular :D

Sometimes there is no way to predict things... :)
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Unknown said…
There is also this popular singer Regina Spektor :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUL3ut4gyQ

I know her from the movie Narnia which was in cinemas a couple of years ago. The track I sent you was my favourite.
Unknown said…
My name is not in a group of uncommon names but "Kasia" is really popular in Poland. In my student group I have 4 Kasia’s :D
For my whole life I meet people with uncommon names. I meet them often and it isn't something anything new for me. Some of more uncommon name like Bliżka or Aria. I think that people with most extraordinary names are the easier to remember.
My name is not very uncommon but when I was a child it seemed to me to be so. I remember that most of my primary school friends had more common names like Piotr and Paweł. Back then I wished I had a common name but now I actually like it as it is. My biological father wanted to name me Bożydar just because he thought it was funny. Fortunately my mother wouldn't let him. As a child I usually wasn't one of "the popular kids" in the class but I imagine I would have had much harder time if my mother wasn't so persistent.
Unknown said…
I think that having choice is better than having very limited list. It is person's free choice, and as long as list is long, there are probably no boundaries. But it's truth - having a buddy called Anatol would be extremely funny and I bet his whole life would be affected by his name. But on the other hand, it is quite boring when you have - let's say in your high school class 5 piotreks, 3 michałs, 6 kasias and so on :D Imagine the world, where everyone has different name :o cool! :D

I personally think my name is quite uncommon, I mean I hardly find anyone called Natalia :) What I really like. But I don't think it belongs to the "weird" list. So from this point of view I would like to call my child quite uncommon, but not getting things extreme ;)
Unknown said…
The topic of giving unusuall names for the children is still a hot potato. These days kids can be really cruel, they often makes fun of the weakest individual in the group. However the point is that persecutions are usually because of the character of the bullied one. The weird, uncommon name is just the excuse for them to make jokes, if the child had had a usual name, I can bet, that the children would have had fun of the kid anyway, but they would just have to find another reason to do it. From the other side, we have to solve the problem by teaching our children that something like name or anything isn't a reason to make fun of anybody, we have to finally reject old ways of raising our children up and finally build the society that is tolerant and open-minded. Not the names are the problem, but bullying itself.

My name, Tomasz, isn't really uncommon. Generally, I don't really care about it, if my parents had had a really good reason to name me with something weird, I would be okay with that.

Now I can recall only one person that I personally know and has a uncommon name, it's Cyryl. I really like this one, it's pretty unusual but still sounds great. Also the meaning of this one is interesting - everybody would probably want to be called "Lord" or "Master" (it origins from Greek I guess).

Anyway, I don't think the name is that important, it doesn't define ourselves, so if future mother of my child wants to call our child with the unusual name, I'll have nothing against that, until it's something meaningful and sounds well.
Unknown said…
Well, I don't have an uncommon name, I mean my name is quite popular in Ukraine and Russia, but it's quite uncommon for foreigners. It's very hard to pronounce my name correctly, as many others names from different counties.

I don't know many people with uncommon names. At first time polish names were for me uncommon, but now not.

Yeah, I'd like to give a special not very popular name to my future child, I think it's very interesting to have such name.
MartaSB said…
Some ideas for names in US are really crazy... I think they should put at least basic standards in the law to prevent the extreme cases.
Thanks for all the links!
MartaSB said…
I totally agree that people with uncommon names can be easier to remember since sometimes they are even the center of attention.

And I think Aria could be pretty popular in school these days. If other children know what GoT is... I suppose they do.
MartaSB said…
I can imagine... old Slavic names are definitely not very popular in Poland these days.
MartaSB said…
Anatol is for me still quite normal, but for example Alfons can have a really hard time at school...

It's tricky that the fashion is constantly changing. After the movie 'Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain' the name Amelia started to be very popular and stays in top10 for few years now.
MartaSB said…
I strongly agree that the unusual name is just one of the possible excuses for bullying the child. Parents should raise their children differently to prevent these situations but the example comes from home and they should change their own behaviour and way of thinking first. Unfortunately it is usually 'different = wrong' and parents even encourage (directly or not) their children to perceive some individuals as worse/untrustworthy with no justified reason.
MartaSB said…
That's quite interesting that when you move to another country your name will be always 'exotic' in a positive way :) Maybe except situations when the name means something silly in the foreign language, but it doesn't happen too often.
I totally agree with Tomasz Gelo: while uncommon names can be interesting, children with strange names often end up bullied in school. Children should be definately taught tolerance, but for now, I think parents who give strange names to their children are just being selfish - it's not them that will be bullied, but their kids.

I've met some people with strange names, the weirdest being Salomea Pia (both are names).

However, that's not even half as bad as naming your child with the names I've recently read about in a newspaper: in 2014, Polish people named their children Żyraf, Myszon or Jarzyna. I seriously think those people crossed a line; it's one thing to have an unusual name, but another if your name is clearly a joke.
Probably in a few years' time, there will be plenty of Natalias - in 2014, it was the fifth most common name to give to a child :)
I think that my name maybe isn't most common and it also isn't most rare in Poland, but I like it. It might be rare abroad, because I remember when I went to Portugal couple years ago for technical practice everyone from my workplace were surprised that my name is Cezar and they were greeting my with words "ave cezar" and it was quite funny.

I know only few people with uncommon names like "Kunegunda", "Konstanty".
Here you can read about most popular name given in Warsaw since 2004 and here you can check popularity of name in poland, even you can generate diagram of popularity and compare with other names :).
Julia Osiak said…
I think that we shouldn't have such strict regulations on names in Poland. Of course parents should think their choice through, so the kid won't have problems with other children. Some of the celebrity baby names (like North West Kardashian) are just weird but hopefully we wouldn't get too many of those in Poland.
When my parents were naming me, Julia was a pretty uncommon name and for a long time I would be the only Julia among my friends, but now it has changed and this a very popular name.
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Anonymous said…
Do you have an uncommon name?

My name is now 65th in popularity rank of names in Poland. I would say it's in the middle of the way between common and uncommon name.

Would you mind if your name was more/less common?

I notice duality in this question. Do I mind if I had the same name but it was less common xor I had other name which would already be uncommon one.
I like my name so I would stick to it, but I probably would mind if it became more common. I don't want to have popular name.

Do you know many people with uncommon names?

I know Nina, which is uncommon to me, but ranks say otherwise.

Would you give an uncommon name to your own child?

If I were living abroad sure I would, but in Poland I would probably give my child fairly uncommon but not weird name.
I agree that there souldn't be so many regulations. It would be fun to name a child in a unconventional way. If partens like a name why souldn't thery be allowed to use it. Even though for others it can be quite stupid. I really like the idea behind North West, even though in polish it would be stragne to call someone like that...There is only one Beyonce and there are many Annas, for example...I am glad that my name is not so popular but on the other hand not a strange one...

My boyfriend knows the guy, who is called " Łiliam Bonder"....;)
Marta SB how would you like to name your baby?:)
Anonymous said…
I agree that no one has right to decide how I will name my own child, when I am going to send him/her to school etc.
Unknown said…
My name is quite popular in Poland. Just like Katarzyna Przybysz, I know a lot of Kasias and I had at least four of them in my high school class which caused a bit of confusion. And I still meet people with the same

name as mine quite often.

I don't know a lot of people with uncommon names. The most unusualy named person I came across personally was Joy. But this wasn't really that surprising considering the fact that one of her parents was Amercian.

Would I give an uncommon name to my child? I'm not sure. Maybe, but first I would make sure that it doesn't sound stupid.
MartaSB said…
Yes, the idea behind a name is very important to me too :)
When you know why you want to name your child in some way, you know the meaning of the name, you have some personal connection to it, some story... then it's not just a name anymore.
Unknown said…
I have popular name in Poland - Agata. I know a lot of Agatas and sometimes with my friends that is little problem, because when I meet with my friends there are still two Agata. Very often, you have to specify to which Agata you say. Currently, I'd rather have a less common name.
does I know people with uncommon names? Of course, I know some of these people. I know Krzesimir and Kajetan and they never complained about their names.
In my opinion strange names are a problem for small children, adult with such a name is satisfied from it.
Marcin Lyzwa said…
I think my name is quite popular in Poland. I could image to have less common name, it could be nice. I'm not a person who would forbid anything to others even if it is about naming child. If both parents agrees to named their baby as football club - it's their choose. I haven't fought about a name for my children bot I think it won't be extraordinary uncommon.
Mateusz Frycie said…
One has to be very cautious and thoughtful when naming a child, as this is a decision for life. Giving a weird or uncommon name to a child can make his future life difficult and stressful. Kids at school, colleagues at work, strangers in public administration offices may not be as creative and tolerant as you. What's more your baby may harbour a grudge against you for having too unusual name.
MartaSB said…
I have some ideas, but nothing is decided yet :) I like less common and totally unusual names, but only when I really like their meaning or description of their origin.
MartaSB said…
Yeah, people from US more often give their children names of feelings: Joy, Hope, Love... In Poland we also have something similar, e.g. Nadzieja, but it's rather uncommon.
MartaSB said…
I also haven't heard any complaining from people with unusual names, even in small cities. I'm starting to think that there ain't no problem with that :D
Michal Kulesza said…
Well I was really suprised when I heard that someone in France tried to name his child Nutella. What's next? Kinder Suprise for unexpected child?:) Hope not, and I'm really happy that law in Poland is rather strict on naming people.
Unknown said…
I'm pretty glad that there are some name restrictions in our country due to the supidity of some part of our population. I think that giving uncommon name for the children is a quite good idea, who's not over the same names repeated over and over, but there should be some boundaries! As Annabella, Ofelia, Lucjusz sound interesting, some other could be just too weird or even offensive (it remindes me of the controversial story of the couple who called their child Adolf Hitler - I'm sorry, but we shouldn't tolerate that kind of behaviour, even if it steps into someone's privacy). The name shouldn't make children ashamed and that's the most important boundary that parents should always remember.
My name is totally common, even if it's not that important for me, I'd rather have more unique one. I haven't thought about that before, but I think I wouldn't give any usual name to my own child, but something too odd wouldn't be considered as well.
Unknown said…
My name is Oskar. Is it a rare name? I don't know. For many years I didn't know any other person with this name. At least in person. During last year I met two or three other Oskars. For sure it isn't as rare as my friends name - Ziemowit.
Unknown said…
I don’t have an uncommon name, but I rarely meet people that are called Agata. All in all I like my name and I would not change it for the other. once I met a boy that name is selim. I think it is unusual and original. Mostly everybody remembers his name and doesn’t confound him with someone else. I haven’t met many people with unusual names yet but everything is changing. Maybe someone will take me by surprise. Hm I don’t know what name I will give my child but I am sure that it will be beautiful.
Unknown said…
Yeah, for example there is a name 'Tatiana' in Ukraine and Russia and the short version of it sounds 'Tania', so Poles may perceive this name pretty strange.
Leonidas is one of my best historical character and the best figure of “300” movie. I have to watch the seconds part “300: Rise of an Empire”. I move away from the subject. I think that my name is very standard polish name. I’m very happy of it, uncommon name can be reason of unpleasant situation, for example children in school can laugh at some “stupid name”. On the other hand, some normal name might be funny in the other language. For instance usual polish name “Dorota” means in Ukrainian language “ to mouth”. I know similar inversely curiosity , Ukrainian name – “Tania” which means “cheap” in Polish. Maybe name “Kamil” means in another language something funny . I hope not.
Unknown said…
My name is quite popular in Poland. Even in this course are 3 people with the same name:)
It's easier to remember person with less common name. However, there is a fine line between not very popular, the original name and the strange name. Parents should responsibly give their children names because they can expose them to unpleasant situations in childhood.

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