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Week 1 [ 7-13.03.2016] Dogs, booze and chaos. Is renting through Airbnb worth it?

Read the article Dogs, booze and chaos. Is renting through Airbnb worth it? at   http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20160304-dogs-booze-and-chaos-is-renting-through-airbnb-worth-it  and present your ways of finding accommodation traveling. 

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Unknown said…
So... The tittle basically implies that chaos, booze and dogs are rule the Airbnb, yet then gives only one example and says that such situations are not common. I know it is off-topic, but I got little hyped to read some bizarre stories.
Anyway. I have never used Airbnb services so I am not going to give my opinion about it. What I tried was variety of hotels and hostels and my favorite - apartments. I know it might sound extravagant but found out that they can cost less than mid-range hotels while giving you much more comfortable stay. Although it takes more time to find suitable one and it is much tougher decision to choose one. But it's like only my opinion.
Unknown said…
Just like Jacek if think the article lacks a little in terms of examples. It wasn't very convincing.
I haven't used AirBNB as a host but I did try it as a tenant. The transaction is mildly risky for both paties I think. As a host you may experience some loss due to guests' misbehaviour but as a tenant you may be left in foreign city with no decent place to live. Although as far as I know such events are a rarity.
That one time I got to use AirBNB it was 2 year ago I think. I rented a lovely flat for me and my friends, 4 of us total, in Paris. We didn't even get to meet the host face to face because of our arrival and departure hours but we kept in touch with him via internet before and through our stay in Paris. It was definitely worth it since we got a nice, well located place to rest and it was quite cheap comparing to all the hotels I checked.
Before AirBNB I checked budget hotels, because obviously when we organise a friendly trip money is a great factor, now I check both and make my decision based on price and facilities needed.
Obviously people look for extra cash and renting apartment for short period of time and decent amount of money seems to be great. I don't think that it is directly against airbnb because there is so many similar websites offering room renting. Of course such things happens but as was said in the article it is rare. Before deciding to rent your apartment you have to be aware of potential risks and one of them is of course damage.

For me airbnb is like standard room renting in the hotel the only difference is that in hotel is reception with employees who take care of potential problems. Even in hostels there are listed rules for everyone and you have to sign it before check in room. They take the scan of your ID and they have your signature and you became obligates to follow rules. In case of this lady I would do the same, people who made a damage should pay for it.
I think that renting a room or house in the Internet through website is in definition a risky idea. Probably the situation describe in the article is very rare, but you need to be prepare for that. You never know what kind of people you will meet.
Unknown said…
Much like Jacek and Aleksandra, I think this article hasn't really lived up to the expectations set by the title. Maybe it was written that way so as not to scare potential clients? Only, if that's the case, the title should have been different.

For some time now I have been using various apartment rental services when going on holiday, as it is indeed cheaper than hotels/hostels. More often than not, the apartment and location were much nicer than what the hotels offered.
I think services like Airbnb are really great since they provide much more information (as well as some guarantees) than you could get when you were trying to rent an apartment in the pre-Internet era. It is still risky but maybe a bit less so.
Unknown said…
As most of my colleagues, I would like to start from a few words about the title. "Dogs, booze and chaos" like "Sex, drugs and rock n'roll" just easily draws our attention.

That kind of business is very unpredictable (as humans :)): before renting our flat we have to secure our rights, belongings and do some detective work (checking potential client etc.).
Unknown said…
I mostly agree with others' opinions about the article. As for my experiences I've never been a host through airbnb but I hosted people a couple of times through couch surfing and all the people who stayed at my place where very nice and didn't cause any problems. However I don't think I could host my apartment to strangers all the time/regularly like people who were mentioned in the article.

I used airbnb as a customer and not all my experiences were good. I stayed at place in Barcelona which had only positive comments on the website. A guy owned a three bedroom apartment in a good place and lived of renting two rooms. He was very well prepared - had all utilities like in a hotel sheets, pillows, towels etc. and was a nice guy... but there were a lot of problems... First of all the room was about 3-4 square meters just to fit a bed and a cabinet which wasn't apparent in the photos in his ad. Furthermore it had a window that looked out on the staircase inside of the building so it was unbearably loud - I'm sure you can imagine - the elevator, people walking, shouting (a weird man lived there and shouted or sang a lot). So I was forced to close the window at night. Then the temperature was so high I had to half-open the door to my room at night and let me tell you... the apartment also wasn't very quiet as well because people kept renting the other room for a day, max two and leaving in the middle of the night. Grr. Complaint over ;)

Even though I had different experiences I still think airbnb is a very good service and I still use it. If you can afford it I highly recommend renting the whole apartment for yourself. It's often nicer than a hotel and I like staying on my own better than in a huge hotel full of people.
I don't have any experience with Airbnb myself, but from what I've heard from my friends it seems to be a cheap way to find a place to stay for a couple of nights in many cities around the world. Like with many things quick and cheap there comes a risk of something going wrong. From what I've heard though the rating system this website has is good enough to choose a place that suits you.

The article deals with problems from a host's perspective and in my opinion there are two ways to rent a stranger your apartment/house/room without running into major problems. These are as follows: you rent them your own home, but you don't leave it unattended or you rent them a spare apartment, which you use only to make money out of. In the latter option you need to calculate possible losses into your general profit.
Unknown said…
I only used the "couchsurfing" (https://www.couchsurfing.com). I was sleep in people when I was abroad, and host them in my house. It's different than Airbnb because it's free. Often the people who will be sleeping in your house also they want to show them the city, by such tours you can also get to know them. This is so much better that you are at home during their stay, so you can control what happens. In my opinion Couchsurfing or Airbnb it's not entirely safe. You never know what someone is really intent and you can hit for some swindlers.
Unknown said…
I think that when we rent our flat or home, we should know that people are very different and sometimes unpredictable. Owners should take into account the damage and losses.
some people do not respect their property. So, there it isn’t a secret that they won’t respect the property of someone.
On the other hand sometimes Airbnb is really good idea for owners and people who rents. Tourists can visit other countries, cities and can feel real life in a particular place and of course owners can earn - it is easy money when tourists are decent.
Unknown said…
My friend used to rent his place for AirBnB during summer, the thing is he was still living in that place as well, so problematic guests were rare. He only accepted verified users, with positive ratings and never got a bad tenant.


Is it all worth it in the end?

I think yes, but you got to treat it like a job, not a free income. I agree with Nina, if you are more into getting to know new people and having a good time couch surfing seems to be a better idea.
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Unknown said…
I guess most of the listed problems are common for any kind of living space rentals. Owners of hotels, guest houses, apartments come across this phenomenons in daily rutine, what differs them from newbies from AirBNB is experience and proper preparations. By letting some strangers in one of our properties we need to be aware of the risk coming wiht it. For sure it's not that simple as it seems. Author of the article lists many basic precautions that should be taken beforehand.

Although I've never used AirBnb I got certain experience in renting rooms in hotels, guest houses and even whole houses abrod. Mostly I did it via Booking.com like web sites. The basic strategy was always thorough research and reading previous guests reviews. Actually I never had any serious problems and tenants never complained as well.
I don't have much experience with Airbnb, but my friends were hosts for something a little different - renting your house for New Year's Eve. Their experience wasn't very good - they say that the guests left terrible mess, the floor was extremely hard to wash and it was sticky even after a few cleanings, etc. However, it's kind of different when you rent an apartament for a 'normal stay' than for a party.
Unknown said…
assumptions are very interesting, but unfortunatelly people are different.
It might be a good idea to make some extra cash. I can't imagine that totally strangers people live in my home. They do everything what they want, they invite everyone who they want. Never, but I am very wary and distrustful. I rather prefer hotel, hostel and others of this type.
Unknown said…
I’ve never heard about Airbnb before. It seems to be a good opportunity to earn some money by renting out a spare room or house. Running a business, even as small as in this case, is always risky. I personally would have it difficult to do that, because of prospect that I had a dishonest guest.
Unknown said…
In article it's only the negative side, but i think that people are different and some of them don't mind and they could like this kind of social experience...
I don't have to read this to know i never wanna try it and i couldn't live with a stranger in my place even a few days.
Unknown said…
I repeatedly used the services of AirBNB when I was abroad. Every time I was very pleased with the quality of the apartments and I have not had any trouble (perhaps because i didn't devastate anythig ;)). I don't think I would have dared hiring my apartment for that many of people, mainly because most of the visitors are foreginers and it is harder to claim potetntial damages caused by them. In my opinion much safer option is to rent the apartment to one person, which personal data is better known. This is much less profitable business than AirBNB, but more secure and proven.
I have never been a host with any of homestay sites, nor have I ever destroyed any property where I was staying.
However, I have some experience as a guest with two most common homestay sites: airbnb and couchsurfing. Let me tell you about couchsurfing first: I never got accepted anywhere and I honestly don't know why. When you create an account on couchsurfing you need to decide whether you have a space in your home to host someone. I think that many people choose an option "I may be a host" but when it comes to actually letting somebody stay at their place - they say that now is not a good time etc. I don't know, maybe my introducing emails weren't cool enough? I stayed with an airbnb host once and I really enjoyed it. My mom, my brother and I went to San Francisco and stayed with an elderly couple in Pinole, a town nearby. The house was incredible. We got our own keys, a parking space and a bedroom with a bathroom. Our hosts were so kind to us, they gave us so many good advice on sightseeing in San Francisco and they even offered us a breakfast in the morning. We stayed with them for 3 days and honestly we couldn't have gotten a better place.
My mom stayed with some airbnb hosts two or three times more and she never complained on anything.
I also have a friend that travels A LOT and always stays with someone from couchsurfing. I think that as a host you have to choose beforehand if you are willing to help your guests around your city or just take them in as a roommate kind of person. From what I have heard my friend made a lot of friends through couchsurfing during his travels and often comes back with some gifts and items to remind him of his hosts.
It always makes me sad when I hear that people rent something (a room, a house, a car etc.) and trash it because it is not theirs. I can't believe that they just do it and don't feel guilty enough to do something with it.
Unknown said…
I think this article is too much one-sided and actually comparing it with mine and my friends' experiences I was quite shocked to read some statements in it. Three weeks ago i was in Paris for 3 days, using Airbnb appartment which was very clean, same as in the pictures and the host was also very nice and available person. To prevent some extreme situations Airbnb has reviews and comments feature which is used by most of the users i had contact with. Also my friends used the Airbnb and never complained. Actually many people have special appartments for rent use, not being their basic places to live, so the whole thing is in their convenience i guess. I wouldn't like to rent my own appartment to other people because of my own privacy and comfort issues, but if i had a free appartment I would defenitely consider that option.
Michał Pycek said…
I would never rent my apartment or house to some strangers for couple of days, even if I was not living in it. They are too many risk factors which can make the whole 'business' unprofitable in a long term. I imagine that the only advantage of such activity would be if my accommodation would be really a low value property, so I would not have to worry about it being devastated. On the other hand, approaching it from the customer perspective, I would also prefer to stay in a hotel rather than someone's house, simply because of the reliability, simplicity as well as accessibility of the service. It also depends which country you are visiting or living in, but I have tried to write in general.
Marcin Konarski said…
Some time ago I attended TEDx event where one of speakers had speech about possibility of not having full-time job and just be freelancer. As example he told that someone can sell hand-make jewellery, write some articles for SEO and rent room at their’s apartment. And from his research it looks that around 30% of people do that. I can absolutely understand that renting house is good way to earn some speed cash and it is better than renting flat or room permanently. I may leave my house for some time and rent it at this point and I don’t have to write complicated agreements, be stressed that I wrote something inappropriately and I will be evicted from my own house.

There is always a risk that someone will destroy my property, but it is the same in restaurants, shops, offices and everywhere. It is like with plane crashes, they happens sometimes, but it is very rare and it doesn’t mean that you have to be afraid to have flight in your life because you will die.
OlaScislewska said…
From own experience I can say that sites like Airbnb are excellent way to find accommodiaton during any travel. This is not only about the place to stay but also about the people You meet. My last hosts from Paris where i spent more than a month quickly became my friends. They showed me real face of the city which i would never discover as a tourist. Thats way iam a fan of this kind of sites and i recomend it to all my friends. Of course i say it only from tenant view, much more risky is to be a host. If You decide to share your own space with someone else You must be open-minded person who likes people and primarily trust them.

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