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Week 9 (1-7.12.2014) Coaching


What do you think about people who teach other people how to live, how to be successful? I used to think that it’s some kind of a joke. How can another person even think that he can teach me a better life?
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However, observing that “coaches” are earning more and more (source: http: //www.forbes.com/sites/russprince/2012/12/03/howlifecoachesbecomeverywealthy/)
and becoming popular people, I have decided to give this topic another look. In the past I only heard about coaches from across the ocean. Surprisingly, this ‘fashion’ came to Poland and we have our own coaches like Mateusz Grzesiak. He’s 34 years old and he teaches people how to be successful. Sounds weird? I did also think that it’s some kind of scam, just the way to make people pay money. He’s only 34. He’s just a little bit older than me and you. Well, maybe he remembers communism but… did he learn anything special living in ‘old times’?
I have watched his motivational speech...
(it’s 1 hour long but watch 5 minutes of it :) )


… and it has changed the way I think about this topic. It seems like he’s telling things that people want to hear. And the answers to questions that people are asking themselves, already
KNOWING answers. He shows people how to be happy from what they have and he points out that some things are really simple to change. Still letting us know that simple doesn’t mean easy. Personally I would attend coaching sessions just because of curiosity, not believing in its positive results. Another thing I is that I know myself better than anyone else (well, maybe except my family) so how could one come and tell me what to do?

There’s another video of Mateusz Grzesiak, published recently, which I’m watching preparing this presentation. It seems it has changed my life! Watching it I’ve found a topic which may interest you :)
The thing that impressed me most is that he lost 30 kilograms in half a year in 2007 (source:
http://mateuszgrzesiak.com/) and despite his workload, he still maintains it.

Another famous coach, the winner of winners, the diamond of diamonds, the hero of the memes is Piotr Blandford.

You could read about him in Polish newspapers and hear his “you are the winner” in several
marketing campaigns. Here is his newest video, where he shows that he’s trying to be over
his negative fame:


What do you think about coaches?
Would you like to attend a coaching session?
Do you think that other people can change your life giving you some kind of instructions?

Comments

Unknown said…
I don't like an idea of coaching. I think that most of them are just trying to get rich and not to help people. Helping people might be an addition but mostly it's not their main goal. They are there in just a right time to take advantage of a person in a vulnerable position. If somebody wants to pay and if those sessions help them that's great but it's definitely not f me. I could never take it seriously and phrases that every person is aware of like "Believe in yourself", "If you want to succeed, you have to work hard for it", "If you smile more your life will get better" seem trivial. If it helps, that's cool but I never liked motivational speakers and I don't think that I could ever get into that.
Unknown said…
In my opinion coaching helps people in difficult situations. Coaches teach people how to be strong, when they doubt about their success. I belive in advice given by them because it may has big impact on them starting to beliving in themselfs. Everyone knows that positive thinking is the beginning of being high achiever. Someone needs some kind of motivation to achieve success. Coatches don't tell us that life is easy, they show us that when it comes to getting everything is all about making great decisions
Unknown said…
Speaking about this, I personally recommend watching Tony Robbins' motivational speeches and others. You must have heard about him.
http://www.ted.com/talks/tony_robbins_asks_why_we_do_what_we_do

I understand coaches as people who try to provide psychological resources for people who need them. Motivation, determination, belief. Everything is in the scope. To be more percise I would say its about the way they combine information and how they present it. It's about how they connect with others and control their emotion. They try to influence in the right direction. I visualise that process as "giving others power to achieve something".

I would like to take part in a live face to face couching session. I would love to try myself out as a coach too.

Yes, I do believe that other's can change the way I think and with that change my life.

Unknown said…
Rich coaches = good coaches.
Poor coeaches = unsuccesfull coaches.
Unknown said…
PAulina I think you should spend some more time exploring this topic.
Unknown said…
I think coaching is very interesting and somehow very important part of self-development. I really believe that coaching can improve our skills and help us understand ourselves, boost our self-confident.

I have read plenty of interesting articles about couching few years ago - only the theory. Believe me, there are lots of things that you have to know if you want to become a coach. I guess not many people have an interest in this topic, maybe they don't have time, and in this case they need a fast attempt to knowledge - they pay and they get it condensed. Sometimes we don't even need any knowledge but we just need to believe, that someone is just supporting us, giving us motivation, believe that we can achieve what we want. This is so extremely important for everyone and can boost our skills, self-confidence and motivation. These are factors that are vital if we want to success or start something, we don't really feel confident on.

I really would like to attend any coach session, I think it would be amazing experience :)
Unknown said…
Thats good topic, because self development tends to be trendy these days. And many so called coaches and motivational speakers takes advantage of it. There are two dangerous topics related that we should be aware. 'Platform selling' and 'seminar junkie'. First term refers to type of selling that is widely used in self development business. You pay money to go for motivational seminar. Good speaker by some sophisticated methods of mainly neurolinguistic programing makes you feel good. He makes you shouting sentences 'i deserve for better life' and other rather trivial slogans and then he suggest you to buy his another seminar, or workshop probably more expensive. People are on emotional high and makes decision to buy another and another and another....and becomes junkies...

You can read more on this topic: http://blog.krolartur.com/cykle/anty-guru/

But on the other hand. Ive read Mateusz Grzesiak books, and I can recomend them. They are very good for those who want to have bigger insight in functioning of human ego or conscious.
Michal Kulesza said…
Thank you for your recommendation. I was thinking about reading one but... wasn't convinced so far.

Also I hadn't hear those two terms you've mentioned. I will read more about it.
Michal Kulesza said…
Paulina, I used to think the same like 2 months ago. After watching more and more such motivational videos I did change they way I get them.

Yes: they are saying people things that people want to hear. Moreover: they need to hear those things to change themselves.

If there are people willing to pay for such 'instructions' - let them pay. If it helps them - it's fine. If not? Well, they did just spent their own money to listen to somebody - better this way than to spend it on alcohol.
Michal Kulesza said…
You've mentioned most important thing: positive thinking. There are situations in our lives when we need coach to develop our skills in positive thinking (I believe that everyone has this skill, but maybe not developed enough).

Coaches don't tell us that life is easy - also they tell us how their life was not easy and how they changed it. I love that part of Grzesiak's speach about German tourists dropping money.
Unknown said…
I watched some motivational videos and some documentaries/programs. If that's a kind of help that somebody needs that's totally fine, if they want to spend their money that's only their choice to make, they could as well spend them on a meeting with a fortuneteller or whatever they like but I personally just don't feel like that kind of lecture could ever help me or that I need help with getting on with my life. If someone needs that I guess they should try whatever they feel like.
Unknown said…
I forgrot to mention the title. "Ego-rcyzmy". Really good book in my opinion
Unknown said…
@Tomek I have never heard about those topics! Very interesting! It sounds like some kind addiction - you pay to feel better :D

What is this book about? :)
Michal Kulesza said…
Exactly, if that may help - let's try it ;)

I believe that even wasting money to improve their lives can lead to better living.
Michal Kulesza said…
Thank you for interesting couching video!

In what speciality would you like to coach people? It would be programming or lifestyle?

I didn't know that you have teaching aspirations. Moreover, do you think that good coach should have some pedagogy basis?
Michal Kulesza said…
Or maybe he or she should be good psychologist?
Unknown said…
To put it into words, this book gives deep insight into the functioning of human personality, and ego. You can learn a lot about how we identify with our thoughts and, how we create ourself in society.
rf. said…
Sometimes I find myself coaching my close friends. Well, maybe not coaching but motivating or giving suggestions / advice. I know that some people have problems with believing in themselves. It's ALWAYS a good thing to feel a reassuring pat on your back, or a word of belief when you're about to make a big step.
I've recently heard a funny thing about diet (from dietitian), that men, given a specific instructions to follow (like cooking plans for a month) will in most cases fill out the instructions thoroughly as they are 'taskers' - given a well described task they feel committed to completing it. There are different ways of motivating yourself to doing something. Most of the knowledge the paid courses teach (hell, even school knowledge) you can attain by yourself. Tell me, how many of you would work hard enough to get all the knowledge you have by now if the school was not obligatory? Or if there was no school, but you would have all the courses in the internet - virtual classes for example. The thing is, some of us (most of us?) are lazy enough to PAY for other people to force us into doing something (training, learning language etc.)
MartaSB said…
As long as people will have problems to take their life in their hands there will be those who will benefit from it.
From what I can see people with low self-esteem are willing to pay a lot of money to hear a motivational speech - usually they will be satisfied. On the other hand the same content will be shallow and boring for those who are sure about their way of living.
Personally I find these speaches a waste of time and something potentially dangerous for people susceptible to persuasion.
In my opinion coaching mentioned in the article is something similar to any other type of motivating other people. Whether it is personal trainer of fitness or martial art teacher their main role is to teach you something and motivate you. The only difference with coaching is just the topic. You do not learn how to defend yourself or properly do some exercise but simply what could you do to have better life.
Basically, if there are people willing to pay for such knowledge then there is nothing wrong with it.
Unknown said…
I have heard about coaching long before this article, and I think it is quite interesting. Here you can check out some videos about coaches:
http://www.kontestacja.com/czym-jest-coaching,594
http://www.kontestacja.com/coaching-duchowy-czyli-duchowosc-w-biznesie,2464
http://www.kontestacja.com/coaching-luksus-czy-pic-na-wode,2964
http://www.kontestacja.com/przeceniany-coaching,2223

Some people even think that Jesus was a coach:
http://www.odwyk.com/coach-jezus,1600?p=blogi

I personally think that every one could become a coach, you just have to believe in yourself. Is that was coaching already? :P
Anonymous said…
What do you think about coaches?

That part of them makes money on stupid people and that there are some exceptions, like Tony Robbins, who become motivational superstars. I have no idea if their listeners become happier people or not.

Would you like to attend a coaching session?

No, I don't, but I would like to learn from(or just have a chance to talk with) billionaires, for instance: Leszek Czarnecki, Jan Kulczyk; who don't need to teach anybody outside their companies.

Do you think that other people can change your life giving you some kind of instructions?

Yes, but only when I am really up to something and I do something to achieve my goals.
Coaches can be good sometimes but you have to want to listen to them. I'm not so into them. I prefer to talk over problems with family and friends. But I admit that sometimes it's good to listen someone with concrete knowledge...Maybe they can, maybe they can't. It's hard to pick one answer. I think it depends on person and circumstances..And no I would not like to take part in such session. At least not now. Would you?
Unknown said…
I have watched second Mateusz Grzesiak presentation and I must admit that what he is saying is very interesting and true. I want to learn more so this first video is my plan for tonight :)
I believe in power of couching. I think that it can really change you and helps you achieve success. In my opinion coaching is not only about motivation. A good coach should change the way in which you see yourself and then the rest of the world. When I be able to afford a couching course I will.
I think that in some situation, coaching is irreaplacebale, for example in sports. Sportsman always need motivation. Large role in the vitories and failures plays brain and good psychological preparation. Therefore, specialists working hard for mental preparation for athletes. Sports people can be prepared physically weaker than opponent, but they can win by psyche.
I see at one time interesting motivating speech by Łukasz Jakóbik, person who has own program "20m2" on YouTube. Look at this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdMgG-X8As.
Seisyll said…
What do you think about coaches?
I needed couching when I was younger. Without it I was too lazy to do anything, also it helped getting better results. Although some people might not like if someone was shouting at them or saying obvious lines to make you feel better.
Would you like to attend a coaching session?
Nope. It might help, but I probably won't stand coaching with positive attitude.
Do you think that other people can change your life giving you some kind of instructions?
They might, but I don't want them to.
Unknown said…
Just like Paulina i don't like "coaching", it nice to have some kind of mentor that keeps you in line and discipline you but it has to do something with relationship between teacher and his student, and most of this people doesn't look like they come in close contact.
That is why best example of coaches can be in sport where their motivation is needed by sportsman for example like boxer. In business, in my opinion, it's only self motivation which will bring people to success, we know all know how harsh it is to work in such environment and there is no one else but us that can achieve anything.
This can be done just by support of close people instead of paying to some guy. But i guess it work for some people but i don't see this to be popular and last long enough.
Unknown said…
I think that coaching is for people, who are naive and lost. They look for happiness and succes. I think as you that coaching is only for money for a coach. They find naive people and talk them about happiness and succes. How can they know about hapiness more than me and you? I don’t know. I don’t believe it. Even if they talk beautiful sentences it doesn’t change my life. It’s not possible. Our life is our not their.
Raher I woudn’t to like attend a coaching seasion. I don’t know why. It doesn’t change anything..
Only I can influence my life, not other people, I think.
If you know what do you want, you don’t need a coach.
Julia Osiak said…
Out of curiosity, I have attended a coaching session once. The subjects was quite interesting and the ideas presented were also catchy. As I was sitting and listening to it, I did feel more motivation or self confidence in myself and my goals, but as soon as I left the room, everything went back to normal. From this experience I can say that coaching can be useful from some people in some situations but it won't work unless you put some effort into it. I'll have to watch the first video someday, as I'm interested in what else I can learn about coaching, but I'm not sure if it will really 'get to me' and help me with my life.
Unknown said…

I think that positive thinking is based in our character and we have to try and change our way of how we see the world. But it is mostly based on self evaluation and hard work and I don't believe that a person goes to a meeting with a coach, hears "think positively!" and suddenly it changes everything. It is a very hard process to change our attitude and this is work that we have to do ourselves.
Unknown said…
I think that anybody with good speech giving abilities, a little bit of empathy and charisma can be a life coach. I am sceptical in regard of this subject. I think that any will for change and further enthusiasm to do so has to come from inside of us. And a stranger telling us that we can do it is not a significant factor in our work process. I think that help needed to sustain the enthusiasm is based on support from the people we know and don't want to let down - friends, family, etc. Coaches make money from something that our loved ones are willing to do for free. However, I think that if people benefit from this kind of help, it is not negative and they should go for it. I agree with Kamil Fijałkowski that the role of sport coaches is very important regarding motivation. Personally, I am not planning to use this type of help because I like to depend on myself.
Unknown said…
Coaching is a very interesting form of science. But in order to come away with something from such a meeting (and not only with a lighter wallet) we should analyze what we learnt and really start using the coach’s advice. Once I attended such meeting at our school with Darek Sikorski and it really was informative. However, I haven’t made any notes and was not able to remember everything. That is why it is better to prepare yourself beforehand for such a meeting and to have a wish of changing something in your life.
Michal Kulesza said…
Up to the some point it was coaching :P

Hahaha, that thesis that Jesus was a coach is great and for me - true.
Michal Kulesza said…
I would like to take part in such session. Probably it would explain me more why these sessions are so popular. Sometimes it's better to know your enemy :)
Michal Kulesza said…
I've tried to watch only 5 minutes of first video some time ago. That night I've watched over 8 hours of coaching videos so please, be aware! :)

I also believe in power of couching :) When the couch is comfortable and warm I can spend all day in it. But how my coach can participate in my success? :)

Ok, now seriously: How in your opinion changing the way people see themselves and the world differs from motivation? And what is motivation for you?
In what kind of coaching session are you interested? Some of them are extremely expenesive!
Michal Kulesza said…
Description from the first sentence reminded me some lesson in elementary school where we described Hitler :P

Sometimes our relatives are not able to help, they haven't had such problem yet, some people hesitate to contact doctor. For them coach can be first person to point them in right direction.
Michal Kulesza said…
What you wrote is so true! I remember that Adam Malysz was one of the first Polish skijumpers to use help of coach and psychologist. And everyone knows what happened next :)
Michal Kulesza said…
Did you use some proffesional coach or family did support you?
Michal Kulesza said…
There come coaching videos! You don't have to remember - you can watch them several times. Technology! :P
Michal Kulesza said…
Whole world influences your life. People you meet every day do change your life!

Aren't you even curious about coaching? It's best to learn about something trying it. At least for me.
Michal Kulesza said…
Could you share with us what were those interesting subjects and catchy ideas, please?
Michal Kulesza said…
That's why I would like to attend such session: To see if is it working - ideally with paying only for effects :)
Michal Kulesza said…
Well, have you read some biographies or life stories of these billionaires? Their lives are full off secrets and weird connections. I think that I wouldn't like to be like them.

Hah, your last sentence reminded me about these ads about pills to give up smoking and that sentence at the end of the ad: Most important factor in giving up smoking is the person's will power.
Sylwia said…
I have similar experience as you Michał. At first I thought like you 2 months ago and Paulina now, such coaches aren’t useful at all. – it is just to earn money. However recently I had a chance to participate in a two lectures, which goals were maybe not exactly the same as typical motivation sessions, but there were somehow connected with motivation and personal development. Both had a great, positive impact on me. I do not say that everyone needs it, but it might be helpful. Now I’m ready to pay for such coaching session. The clue is to find right person. I’m sure that there are lots of “coaches”, which haven’t got knowledge, and personality for such profession.
Coaching can be a really great thing, however it has to be done right. I think that the role of a coach is very serious and unless people are professional and at the same time compassionate, there won't be any benefits from coaching. I myself was somehow coached by my judo instructor for a long time, meeting only with him at the gym. If It wasn't for him I would be in much worse shape than I am now (not that I am in the best shape). That man really changed my life for the better so I believe in the idea of coaching.
Marcin Lyzwa said…
The idea of Coaching does not appeal to me. I watched few videos with different coaches and on each I get bored after 15 min, they always talk the same things. I admire Mateusz Grzesiak, but not for being coach, but for what he represents. He knows fluently seven languages, he graduated two Masters in Law and Psychology. I know that I have to aim height in my live, plans and dreams are important. I understand that there are people who need such motivational talks, I do not deny that in future I wouldn't be one of them. I recommend a very cool episode of 20m2 Łukasza with Mateusz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNDmfW8hXOk
Unknown said…
If every coach acts like this guy then coaching is definitely not for me. I can't stand a minute listening to him because of the way he talks and acts on stage.
But can imagine coaching being effective. It's sometimes hard to get motivated or maintain self discipline. When we were young our parents were our coaches and it would be much harder to get good grades without somebody looking after. So it's probably also a good thing for adults.
Unknown said…
Few years ago I want to try coaching sessions. I read some books about NLP (controversial way of living, thinking and making decisions). I was in some free lectures about motivating and learned some kind of instructions. I can say that it is ok, I think it helps me in some cases. Anyway I didn't want to change myself in this way, but I tried it only by my curiosity. And good occassion to meet some people.
Unknown said…
And to Paulina statement, i think the best motivators are close people like family, friends. Person can change if he himself will be strong enough and with support of closed ones it should be always possible.
Unknown said…
I think coaching is good for finding particular details, but not in the way of total changes in your life. If information is about practical things like time management or useful tips in some spheres - its okay, but not when it is about your personal life and some things that making you a person. I would like to visit one of those seminars in some topics about project management or something about language learning, as at least there could be heard some interesting thoughts on the particular problem, but deffinately not a seminar on how to be rich, sucessful, champion, winner or some other stuff of that kind as personally for me there is no need in motivation. If you went for motivational seminar you can leave it at once as you already have enough motivation to do something. As Carlin said, there is more problems with overmotivated people - serial killers, terrorists, politicians - those guys definately are not suffering from the lack of motivation.
Unknown said…
I agree with Michal in the case of pointing in the right direction. If couch is a person with great experience in particular field he can analize how to reach your goal faster, in some way they are similar to teachers or private psychologist.
Unknown said…
Coaching is the new profession, which nowadays became very popular. In my opinion caches assist people to identify specific goals in work or life.
I think that coaching or motivation speaking is actually really useful, coaches or mentors can help people to make better decisions, create a new path of life.
I would like to attend a coaching session. I think it would be really interesting – who knows, maybe after such session I would change something in my life?
I think that other people can change your life giving you some kind of instructions. There lots of people that needs some instructions, coaches can make their lives less miserable.
Unknown said…
You heard about this statement? “Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.” In most cases this is pretty accurate . I don’t think our lives can be changed by set of specific instructions but I am not big fan of coaching sessions and coaching itself.

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