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Week 3 [09.04-15.04.2018] What Can You Do With Impostor Syndrome?

At some point in our lives, we all doubted ourselves and questioned our worthiness, especially during our hardest periods of life. We criticize ourselves knowing that maybe we should try harder in order to deserve certain things that we want in our lives or be on the certain path that will fulfill our inner needs. Understanding our flaws and mistakes we made in the past, we try to change ourselves, and with enough effort we achieve our goal, which will make us feel good and confident again. But what if we made to that point when we did everything right and eventually succeeded, but we still feel guilt and refuse to believe in our own success thinking that it is pure luck. That feeling is what many people refer to as the impostor syndrome, fraud syndrome or simply impostor experience. Believe or not this psychological phenomenon is quite common among people these days and can take different forms depending on a person's character, life experience and life circumstances. Usually, those who suffer from the impostor experience are very talented, smart and ambitious people. They are high-performers, perfectionists with fear of failure who tend to underestimate own capabilities and achievements. They can be best in what they do but still think that they are actually not. Needless to say, this mind-trap can make people unsettled causing them to feel unmotivated and unhappy about their self-development, losing faith in their work. Sometimes it leads to stress or depression; thus, killing a person's productivity and ideas. But is this a real problem or just an exaggeration? How can we cope with the imposture experience? Here is one interesting talk on this subject:




If you are interested, you can take this test to determine if you have signs of this syndrome.

Questions:
  • What is your opinion on the impostor syndrome?
  • Why is this problem so common nowadays?
  • Can you relate yourself to this phenomenon? Have you ever experienced it?

Comments

Wojtek Protasik said…
I do know one person who has experienced a lot because of the impostor syndrome. It's toxic and devastating and sometimes it can ruin your relation with other people too. Maybe, but just maybe, depending on your mind it could be used as an advantage as mentioned in the talk. It seems very hard to achieve that from my point of view.

I think this problem might be seen as common one nowadays, because of many people who can't really differentiate between having some doubts and a true syndrome. It's easy to notice how people get affected by all the information they are bombarded with and start to whine about everything in their lives. Then they get in some unhealthy mindset, which stops them from developing and growing.

In my opinion you can't 'experience' this stuff. It's not ice-cream. If you have it, then you have it. At least this is what I could tell after knowing such a person for some time. If you are having some temporary doubts and mixed feelings it's just the way it is. You get a new job, or your first job, and you will experience some stress and doubt yourself as you just left your comfort zone. But you won't cry every night and quit work, because of it.

To sum up. I think it is considered to be common because it's easy to exaggerate and also hard to validate who is really having serious issues or just a bad time. I think this problem is very much accelerated by social media of any kind and moderated by actually doing something, which was also the case of the girl who was sharing her talk.
Unknown said…
Stress is part of living. It helps us to adapt to the environment we live in. And if you know what triggers it and how to control your feelings and emotions, you will be more resistant to it. But easier said than done. Still, I agree that when you face the problem like this you need to change your mindset first.
Unknown said…
I’ve heard some time ago about this syndrome. In my opinion, it may be very harmful and dangerous. As mentioned in the article it may lead to depression and cause a feeling of being unmotivated. People have to be conscious of it and try to handle it somehow.
I think that it may be so common because the world is going in the wrong direction. Nowadays people pay much more attention to your performance than personality and person that you are. That’s why people are so hardly pushing forward and trying to achieve more and more. I won’t say that it’s stupid but people are getting crazy about it. I often try to do my best but generally I don’t care about getting very good grades at university or being promoted in my job. For me, this is one big piece of shit. As I said I will always try to do my best but the most important for me is being a good person. Maybe that’s my solutions to problems like this syndrome.
Jakub Nietupski said…
In my opinion, the impostor syndrome comes from the very basic human need of being accepted by other people and the fear that it won't be fulfilled. It's a very delicate topic since many of us had experienced toxic, nonconstructive criticism for a work that we have put a lot of heart and effort in the past. Because of that we tend to keep these negative voices in our heads that tell us that no matter how hard we push, it will never be enough, that the things we achieve will always be pure strike of luck.
Another factor that enforces impostor syndrome is the phenomenon of survivorship bias - the fact that we only hear about successful people and not about the people that failed. We tend to forget that for each Elon Musk or Steve Job there are thousands of diligent, hardworking people that have tried but didn't make it. This creates a illusion that if we *really* tried hard enough we should be way further in our career/skills/etc than we are now.
Of course there is another side of it: every success actually takes some luck and we should remember about that as well. Most of the things that we achieved, we could do partially because of our priviledge, because of the people that we were lucky to meet and many simple coincidences.
So to conclude, I believe that we should try to keep balance between the state in which we are overwhelmed by our impostor syndrome and therefore unable to reach out of our comfort zone and learn new skills, and the position in which we are simply presumptuous and ascribe all positive thing that have happened to us to our exceptional talents.
I didn't meet a person who has this syndrome, but i heard a lot about it. I would say that self-suggestion disease is the most scaring thing in the world of diseases. And what about motivation, i think people must be motivated but not over motivated. If the person is over motivated he/she definitely leaves his comfort zone and feels depressed. But now there are a lot of people who are pushing you forward - when you are working especially - and you need to deal with it. As for me, i'm motivated enough person to do everything i need to achieve something, but of course, it depends on personality and upbringing.
Unknown said…
I think this is a serious problem for those who suffer from it. Stress is needed in our lives, but we must not forget about resting.
Perhaps the reason for this is that people nowadays are looking for acceptance from others, which makes them wish for continued success. Unfortunately, this can be frustrating and dangerous.
I do not think I would ever be in contact with that. I always try to do my best, but everything is under control, so as not to hurt anybody or, if necessary, help somebody.
Unknown said…
I agree with you. No matter what happens in your life, you need to be a decent person. But you also need to remember about yourself too. I see impostor syndrome as a form of self-sabotage. Harming yourself emotionally will always bring more complications in your life. By putting pressure on yourself, torturing your mind with constant self-doubt you will never be able to live happily in your life. And If you don't start respecting yourself neither other people will.
Unknown said…
I agree with your statement about inner balance. Most people don't understand that hard work doesn't necessarily mean success. And you shouldn't be so hard on yourself for not succeeding.
Unknown said…
Motivation is obviously good but sometimes the real thing people need is not motivation but right attitude.
Unknown said…
Or maybe people looking for approval from themselves, which is mostly related to low self-esteem. But like it was mentioned before, it's all about your mindset and attitude.
Illia Shynder said…
I think, impostor syndrome is almost a normal thing nowadays. I think, it's not the worst disease you can get, but still frustrating. I think that the reason it's so common is upbringing and education. In my opinion, parents are responsible for what their children think abut themselves. If your mother always tells you that you can do better, get more and never notices your current achievements, you will get this syndrome more likely. Also school is responsible for that, because children spend at least 6 hours per day in school, and it's very important how teacher behave and what teacher says to his students. Although there are a lot of good specialists, some teachers will never say a good word, praise or cheer up a child.
I don't think I have such syndrome, despite sometimes I notice something like it, but not so often. I think I need to thank my parents for that, because they always were near and have always noticed my achievements and supported me on my failures.
Anna Koca said…
I believe that impostor syndrome is truly a syndrome of our times. In a way, it is a sign of something good - first of all that we live in an era when people are ambitious and always strive for something better than they currently are/have. Second of all, that we live in an information era - an impostor syndrome probably couldn't have arisen if we hadn't had access to information on other people through social media and if we couldn't have compared ourselves to others. That being said, of course, impostor syndrome is not something good. To me it is a side effect to the way humanity has developed in last few decades. Seeing that we have so much corporate interest and influence on the society, employees and students all in a smaller or bigger degree run in the rat race, it is not surprising that corresponding mental syndromes follow.
When it comes to me, I can't say that I have experienced impostor syndrome, since maybe I have not achieved this much yet in life to be struggling with syndromes that are, in some way, reserved for the successful people. However, if I do become famous and rich one day, I will try to remember not to underestimate my own achievements.
I guess impostor syndrome is pretty common nowadays and I wouldn’t say that people suffer from it.I truly believe that this is kind of extra motivation that makes people get better and better each day.But on the other hand this syndrome doesn’t make them truly happy when they achieve something.Those people think that they could do even more and this fact make them feel bad.

For my personal standpoint this problem is co common because of so many examples of hard working people that succeeded in some particular area just because they spent so much time on self-development and didn’t take a rest at all.Such people become to compare themselves with these hard workers and this affect them even more.

I can’t relate myself to this phenomenon but I used to experience it.
I think that impostor syndrome is normal behavior nowadays and we don't need to warning about it. I know people that has such time of syndrome and for me a little bit hard to talk with them but I think that this is their way to make them self better and move forward.
Unknown said…
I am kind of perfectionist and pedant person who set myself hard goals to achieve and even if I have a success I have in mind that I could do it better and achieve even better results. I am not sure that I can to call it a impostor syndrome because I am not depressed and I don't feel that my sucess was only because I am lucky or something like that. I am concious that I achieve my goals because of very hard work and I know that this work is worth it. Of course my life would be easier if smaller succeses could make my sattisfied but I am fine with my nature. My perfectionist approach let me made a huge progress in short time as a programmer and I learn a lot of things very fast so I can't complain.

Why is this problem so common nowdays? I think that it is a common problem nowdays because most of us attend in a rat race and we want to achieve some success in our life. On the television or on the internet we can see only successful people and they trick us that everybody has beautiful and easy life and because of that we think that our small sucesses are worthless. It's not true and we should remember that the television or the Internet is only a show.
Marcin Mróz said…
I believe that this kind of syndrome is something natural in case of ambitious people. They always set their goals high and are usually not satisfied with their results as they think they could do better. However, I don't think this is a good thing and on longer run it could be dangerous for mental health of a person who suffer from it. I think that I can relate to this problem in a way, because I'm a perfectionist type of person and I usually don't like when my results in some field are not satisfying for me. But I would not consider it as any problem or syndrome, I would rather say that I'm just ambitious.
Illia Lukisha said…
What is your opinion on the impostor syndrome?
I think it real, and many people(including me), feel themselves an imposters, but it comes along with people who think they professionals, but they don't.

Why is this problem so common nowadays?
Because of media, social networks, and modern recreation methods.

Can you relate yourself to this phenomenon? Have you ever experienced it?
Of course, I do, but people need to be imposters sometimes to become a person they want to be. Every time I get a new job position I experience this phenomenon.
Unknown said…
I’ve head about it many times. I’ve felt it on multiple occasions as well. Regarding my programming career. It was every job interview I took. Especially the second one for a Junior position. I applied just out of curiosity. Not really expecting to be seriously considered for a job. After a test I was pessimistic and again after long interview it was the same. In the end I got it and well, surprisingly for me. This experience and many challenges I faced while working there made me realize that I should be more courageous and that’s is very hard to judge the obstacle before you actually try to pass them. That it’s normal to be clueless on new waters and that it isn’t actually that hard to adapt. Just as the speaker in the presentation said. It had upsides as well as the downsides that you have to keep reminding yourself about. Because when you are aware of those down-putting thoughts you found yourself more motivated.
The problem is so common today mostly in regards to social status. I think that at fault is entire entertainment industry. Movies, shows and every possible medium creates this model where mediocre is not good enough. It’s the same for social media where users themselves put out only the most impressive image that they can project. We are constantly reminded of where we could be and how ‘that’ looks.
Peter Clemenza said…
Impostor syndrome is another made up diesese by people from first
world countries who live in a tiny rooms, work from nine to five
(often overtime) and seems depressed and anxious all the time.

Its probably coused by matriarchal modern society
which lacks strong man values. Men are constantly
being challenged that extrapolates on
a small, contained nuclear family, which than affects guilt on today's children.

I have never experienced it.
Unknown said…
This syndrome sounds as an urban illness. Information is getting to other part of the world in less than second and because that people see people of success all around, it's more and more visible and attack humans much more often. And yes, I've experienced it multiple times in my life, but it was not the feeling, that last for more than a week.
Unknown said…
In my opinion it must be a common problem nowadays. People live so fast losing their work-life balance. We can notice a trend where the more developed country is, the more suicides there happens. I think is related to your topic. In my own point of view most of people lost their mind thinking that success and money are the most important things in life. I think that it’s easy to recognize the syndrome and the good therapist is able to make person get out of this habit.
I hope I will never be forced to boost my ego by being focused on success not on health, family and friends.
Nowadays, this syndrome can occur often because today's world is focused on success. Young people are often afraid of failure and feel pressured.
Why is this happening? It is possible that social networking sites make life for the show. Everyone puts pics showing a high standard of living,
and show off with fancy work post, which usually means nothing. I think it can put some people down and they can feel that their lives are not enough.

I personally do not have this syndrome, but my girlfriend often does not believe in herself. Often when she reaches something he says it's by accident or that it is not
any great achievement. After reading this article, I think she may have symptoms of this syndrome.
Patryk Górski said…
Well, after reading this article I can tell, that I see a lot of people with it. Sometimes the pressure is too big on some people, and they're looking for an excuse, or they're somehow desperate about themselves. It's hard to deal with that kind of syndrome.

People do not believe in themselves. A lot of people do not value themselves.

I think that I've experienced it, sometimes I'm just thinking that I'm not so good at something, and I don't know how did I get there. Lucky for me, it's quite rare feeling :)
Kristina Moroz said…
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Kristina Moroz said…
Sometimes we just simply underestimate ourselves, or think that we don't deserve what we have and this is not a syndrome or some psychological diseases. In medicine some not similar diseases among themselves could have the same symptoms. What am I leading to that, the primary symptom of this syndrome and many others is just a self-pity, so you can create every disease for yourself that you want.
I think, I don't have this syndrome. I know that I could be very exhausted and tired and unmotivated but not sick.
The reason for this kind of oppression is that we want so many things to do in such little amount of time. So we started to think that we not good enough.
1. Personally, I know some people who might be fighting the Impostor syndrome. They are very talented but at the same time, shy and they underestimate themselves.

2. In my opinion, the problem is related to the upbringing model, in which parents help their children with everything. They even replace them in some tasks. Therefore, children keep in mind that they are having a support, and once this kind of help is missing, then they can't manage with stress and the like.

3. I would say that I'm not having problems with such syndrome. However, I sometimes get this kind of feeling that everything comes so easily, but I think it's because I work hard to succeed.
Jakub Lisicki said…
I think that this syndrome could be a real thing nowadays. Too many people just take part in a rat race, where there is no winner. The ones that lost always have an explanation for that as well as love to blame the people who have achieved more than they do. That makes everyone feel unsafe and somehow uncomfortable about who they are. There are a lot of situations where people are afraid to show who they are and what they achieved, because pretty often they are being made to fell guilty about it, because a lot of people try to convince them that they are just showing off.
Personally, I also think that the issue is pretty real as I've been victim of situations like that a lot. Sometimes, when I'm trying to tell something which I don't treat as anything important, some people also like to prove me that I'm a poseur who didn't really achieve anything at all. Thankfully, I don't take it personally and usually don't care about it at all.
Unknown said…
What is your opinion on the impostor syndrome?
I never heard about that. Politics definitely does not have that. In my opinion psychology in those days has a tendency to create fake syndromes, just to make many for the treatments.
Why is this problem so common nowadays?
I did not notice that is common at all.
Can you relate yourself to this phenomenon? Have you ever experienced it?
I think not.
Unknown said…
I agree. But not the only students are affected. People who mostly suffer from it are the regular working class. Many of them work in "toxic environment" and rarely praised for their job. They are always told to work harder if they want to get that raise or some other bonus. In this case, employers trying to invoke impostor syndrome in order to make people work more. It's pretty known phenomenon, especially in big corporations. But sooner or later people start understanding it and leave their jobs.
Bartosz Łyżwa said…
It's very interesting article. I've already heard about impostor syndrome and now I agree with colleague above that this syndrome could be real nowadays. I think I've never experienced it but it's very likely I don't even know about it. In my opinion it's getting started because of stress and pressure of the world around us. We are trying to go forward and forward forgetting about our worthness.
Unknown said…
To some degree, we can say that modern "information overdose" can be the cause of impostor experience. And I also agree that "rat racing" could be a catalyst for it. But I also think that people are generally creating problems for themselves. Why? Maybe because we want things to be complicated in our lives so we can make excuses. But that's not always the case.
Unknown said…
I think that nowadays it’s a big problem. As now you hear from everywhere what successful person should look like, you read books about successful people, looking films about success, advertisement tries to sell you a key to success, so you can easily get Imposter Syndrom. As result, it can negatively impact our health and relations with people. Also, I believe it’s very hard to turn it in some bounces for yourself as it was presented, at lease on your own.
Personally, I wasn’t experiencing it. But have few examples when I was seeing how people were downplaying their achievements. However, I do not really know an example when it harms the life of someone. Rother example which I mention above resulted in more effort in a way to achieve a goal.
Unknown said…
Many motivational speakers say that you should never compare yourself to other people because when you do it you automatically assume that you need to follow the exact path they did. Also, you don't take into account that these hard working people might not live the same life as you. What works for them might not work for you.
Unknown said…
I think, as long as it not influence your personal life or health it can be considered harmless.
Unknown said…
Good for you that you know how to handle this sort of things in you life. Keep up!
I think that impostor syndrome is pretty accurate escpecialy among young people. We're trying to do our best and even if we succeed , there is always thought that we could perform better in some ways. When looking in the mirror we are more harsh for ourselves than other people. We spot our flaws more clearly than strangers.
I think this problem is common nowadays because peaple are trying to succeed to much. We are greedy and we're trying to get as much as we can't which could led to failure. I think this problem mostly concern people who work in corporations because it's hard work and very stressful.
No i've never experienced this syndrom but in some way I could identify with its victims. I demand a lot from myself and sometimes its to much. But I think that the golden mean is to find ballance beetwen being to harsh for yourself and too forgiving.
Unknown said…
Yeah, impostor syndrome is not some sort of disease. Being ambitious is always good characters feature, but don't get obsessed with ambitions.
Unknown said…
In my opinion impostor syndrome can be very dangerous and shoukd be medically treated.
It's common and growing problem because of "super perfect" instagram photos which can make you feel worse and huge competition on labor market.
I've never experienced any symptoms.
Unknown said…
I think that movies, shows and other forms of media entertainment just don't show the real image of how the world works. They create false illusion of success and try to convince that this is what success looks in real life.
Unknown said…
Yeah, I agree. Like I mentioned in my earlier comment you either will try to control your stress or it will control you.
Unknown said…
I don't think that you need a therapist if you have a constant support from your family and friends who can help you with such problem.
Unknown said…
For people afraid of failing there is good saying: "You never succeed if you have not failed enough."
Unknown said…
I think that every man should be happy if he manages to get something. You should not be sad about it. You should set new goals and enjoy them. The syndrome should not occur in any person. But unfortunately it occurs.

People can see on the internet, on facebook people who managed to achieve success. I think that it has a big impact on us. By seeing known people, people get depressed and think they have achieved nothing.


That's how I experienced a few years ago. Now I try to enjoy every thing and do not envy others just to enjoy my own successes
Cecylia said…
I never heard about this syndrome, but I can definitely agree that this is a big problem. I’m really glad that you posted this information because now I understand that what i feel about my art is just a wall in my brain. Actually everyone is telling me that what I draw is really extra but I don’t believe it, i always have that feeling that this is a piece of crap. It’s only in our head. I set my own goal in life, and it is to work in Cartoon Network, I believe that I can make it because I know that I am really into animation and cartoons, and understanding . But after I see OTHERS capabilities I go back to my box called “ I am bad a it” . I think the problem is to see others making better stuf or people who understand faster then others. I definitely have that syndrome but now I know that I need to believe more in my capacity.
Unknown said…
This is a very interesting article. I started to read more about this syndrome thanks to him. I think that it often results from the lack of various factors in childhood. It is puzzling that, according to research, for some time in the past, women have had the biggest problem with it.

I know that this is a negative phenomenon, but it shows that we are not too confident and too proud. We have to stand in the truth about yourself and see how much commitment we put into some initiatives. This will help see if it really is our problem with this syndrome or hard work.

Looking now at my experience, I think I could have problems with the syndrome but I know my values ​​and I know my skills so I quickly dealt with it.
Unknown said…
I have never heard a definition of that issue, but met many people facing this problem. I think that this syndrome can have both bad and good results in short term, but in long term can be very destructive to their victims.
These days people tend to be strict to themselves because media create picture of perfect, successful person. People despite of the fact that they are in right place and they deserve the lives they have think that they had more luck than hard work.
I think that most of the people experienced that syndrome on some point of life and so do I. Every time when I am achieved something worthy, I have thoughts that maybe I didn't deserve it and have more luck than real skills.
Unknown said…
In my opinion, all the psychological problems come from the family and the childhood. As far as I have heard about the imposter syndrome, the reasons are the same. For example, if parents tend to idealize their child and he or she grows up, being sure about own perfection, and then - bang! cruel world. And you are no more smart and talented, you fail and make stupid mistakes. As a result - I am not perfect, how did it happen? The second case - mom and dad give all the praise to one child, ignoring his siblings. The siblings start to believe, that no matter how hard they try, the are still worthless. And this complex stays with them for the rest of their life. And it is a very sad situation. I have never experienced that syndrome myself, but I am a perfectionist, so I have my own problems;))
Unknown said…
I believe that this syndrome is something natural and normal when ambitious people are concidered. They always set their goals high, when they failed, they learned and set another goals and are usually not satisfied with their results because they think they could do way better. I said normal, I know - but nothing is more important than health - so people have to find the perfect balance between goals and health mind. I know that feeling entitlement require doing things better and better to earn respect, but we have to remeber to stay halthy and not lose our minds. There no such thing as perfect person - I like to think that there is something like "the perfect version of youself" or "the best version of yourself" - so, keep getting better, but stay yourself and dont push your barriers too much.
I used to feel lack of entitlement, but now, I know that person am I, skill I posses, what values I can exchange and what standards I represents so, I dont think that I have this problem ;)
Unknown said…
Good for you that you hadn't been influenced by it so much like some other people.
Unknown said…
Or sometimes people just looking for attention. Still, it can be very dangerous if you don't know how to handle it.
Unknown said…
It's all comes down to one thing - our mindset. With wrong attitude you will always feel bad in your life no matter what you do. And making up disease for yourself is only creating new problems.
Unknown said…
It's interesting opinion about parent's support. I've never thought about that.
Unknown said…
That's true. Society will always try to suppress you. And you just need to accept it and do your own thing.
Unknown said…
I think you didn't notice it because it can take so many forms and because not so many people who have this issue tent to talk about it.
Iman Masjedi said…
The unfortunate thing about impostor syndrome is: you never really know if you've experienced it, or you're actually just unqualified.

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