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Week 12 [25.01.21-31.01.21] "What is The Line?"

 

Prince Mohammed bin Salman launched a new project that will see a futuristic city take shape over the next decade. It is a centerpiece of Saudi Arbia’s 2030 vision. The vision of 170 km long city with no cars, roads or carbon emissions called „The Line” will be part of the $500 billion projects called „NEOM”. The project aims at showing „how people and planet can co-exist in harmony”. The construction of „The Line” is planned to start in the Q1 of 2021. The coast will be from $100 to $200 billion. No journey will be longer than 20 minutes and then a 5 minute walk. It doesn't matter which part of the city you want to get to. The Line can become home to approximately 1 million people. This project will create 380,000 new jobs and contribute SAR 180bn to domestic GDP by 2030.



„The Line” will be located between the Red Sea coast and the mountains and upper valleys of northwest Saudi Arabia. The location will be at the croossroads of the world, making it a natural choice for a global innovation hub. More than 40% of the global population will be able to reach NEOM’s breathtaking terrain in less than a four-hour flight.




The projection will provide abundant renewable energy for a sustainable future. Restoring our connection with nature to improve our health and wellbeing for a happier lifestyle and technology that continuously learns and improves to make life easier for all. Once the city is built, it is expected to contribute $48 billion to Saudi Arabia's economy.


At the end, the originator Prince Mohammed bin Salman said “We need to transform the concept of a conventional city into that of a futuristic one. Why should we sacrifice nature for the sake of development? Why should seven million people die every year because of pollution?”


https://www.neom.com/en-us/about/#destination

https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/what-is-the-line-all-you-need-to-know-about-saudi-arabias-plan-for-a-futuristic-zero-carbon-city

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/news/industry-news/the-line-saudi-arabia-neom/

https://blooloop.com/technology/news/the-line-neom-saudi-arabia-carbon-zero-city/

https://www.neom.com/whatistheline/



Questions:

  1.   Do you thing „The Line” project can be successful? Is it possible to build a long and narrow city that will function well?
  2.  Do you think a city without roads and a car makes sense? What do you think about delivering things?
  3.  Do you think this project can make a big difference in improving the environment?


Comments

1. This is a very interesting idea. Most of the cities we know today operate efficiently in two dimensions. Width and length. A relatively new idea is to use the third dimension, which is building tall buildings and the connections between them. Here, use of space would not be reduced back to two dimensions, but even to just one. For common sense, this can generate a lot of problems, but I'm curious what it will bring. I treat it more as an experiment than a valuable direction for the development of our civilization.

2. It is hard for me to say what problems architects may encounter, and what problems even architects will forget and people will be faced with a fait accompli. The cross-section schematics of this city seems to be quite well designed. I associate it with the sushi dispensing system in restaurants in Asia, where the dishes move around the tables on conveyor belts so that everyone has the opportunity to use them.

3. From the environmental point of view, definitely yes. Switching from personal transport to collective public transport is a great progress. It takes away some of the sense of freedom in favor of ecology. I am not 100% convinced of this idea, but I will watch how the works progress.
Mateusz Wietrak said…
1. I hope the project will be a success. It seems very interesting and ambitious. If everything is properly designed, and it certainly will be, such a project will be able to function without any problems.
2. Of course it makes sense. It seems like a very ecological solution.
3. I think it will make a big difference. It seems to me that if this project turns out to be a success, there will be many more of this type in the world.
Viktor Ryś said…
1.
The video was quite promising, and the idea is quite good. I root for their success in this project to show that building cities and planning cities can be done in a modern fashion.


2.
If there was a viable public transport, that could also deliver things, or use drones for smaller deliveries would be a good alternative to cars. They seem to be quite obvious in our reality, but they do a lot of harm, and it's not that hard to get rid of them.


3.
This will be a concept only, so time will show us if it will be sucessful and if other cities could take the same lead, but I think that it's a very good start in improving the environment.
1. Do you thing „The Line” project can be successful? Is it possible to build a long and narrow city that will function well?

To be quite honest, I just do not know if the „The Line” project can be successful. Moreover, I do not believe that there is a simple answer for it, because the success of this project can be measured differently. In my opinion, the success would mean that it would not be a one-time scenario and that more cities like this would be built in the future. I really think it is possible with the rapid growth of technology nowadays. However, one concern that I have is that there are a lot of people that enjoy stability and to live in cities that are completely different from any other “regular” city would be a huge difference.
2. Do you think a city without roads and a car makes sense? What do you think about delivering things?
I actually believe it makes a lot of sense, because of the amount of people that live in the cities nowadays. The amount of traffic jams is enormous, and people have to wait countless hours to get from one point to another. However, I really see one big gap in the “city without roads and cars” and it is delivery and taxi transport. Furthermore, I am not just talking about the shorter time, am I more talking about the convenience of moving in a taxi and ordering something with delivery. In many large cities like New York, Tokyo or London people do not own cars and use public transport. However, the main reason is not only because they cannot afford the car, but also that it is not convenient to own it. You can quickly order an uber which is not only super cheap but takes you comfortably to the destination. Another big advantage is when people want to move from one place to another or they buy new accessories to their apartment, should they use the underground to bring their new large bed to their apartment, if there are no transport cars? These are just examples of how difficult life without any cars are, and you do not have to own a car to order groceries online or buy new equipment that is delivered by car.

3. Do you think this project can make a big difference in improving the environment?
It definitely can make a difference, however, I am not sure how much it can influence the environment situation that is currently in our world. Moreover, I do not have a lot of information about this project and how can it be done without negatively impacting the environment. All I can say is that the project is interesting and if one day it could be built, I would definitely go to visit it.
Kacper N said…
Very interesting article to read Damian, I didn't know about The Line bfeore, I'm glad that I had a chance to read about it.

Answering all of your questions,

I think this project can be succesfull but there are some crucial requirements, and the same idea probably would not be succesfull in other geographical areas. I think Pricne Mohammed bin Salman idea is very ambitous and futuristic. According to the ammount of money which can be invested in it, and also on the characteristic of the terrain in this geographical area it is promising and I hope they manage to accomplish the project. According to my statement that this idea would not work everywhere (unless some conditions are met) - that's because it's pretty hard to find some appropraite area to build that type of city (single long line) - in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of deserts and flat areas, so that's quite a friendly place to build such a city (despite the lack of water etc). The second argument is that it's very high cost investment, and most of countries would have problem with it.

After reading all parts of your article I think it makes sense. According to the multi layer architecture (one layer for the high speed transport, such us high speed futuristic subway, one layer for services, and last layer for pedestrians) - that could optimize toe traffic a lot, and decrease the risk of traffic jams almost to zero. I'm very curious about how that would perform after finishing the project. Answering second part of your question - I'm not afraid of delivery times, especially that there is a one separated layer for services, that for sure should improve delivery times.

Answering your last question, I hope it make a big difference. The idea is promising.
Do you think „The Line” project can be successful? Is it possible to build a long and narrow city that will function well?
That's a really interesting project! Looking at the success of Dubai I think that there is a large potential for the Line to succeed. Though the introduction was fairly brief, and I would like to know a little bit more about how the whole thing would operate underground, the whole idea seems that it could really be the solution to overpopulated cities.

Do you think a city without roads and a car make sense? What do you think about delivering things?
This a very complicated and complex solution. We are used to roads, as it was necessary for the past for cities to develop with carriages coming in, and the bigger the roads the more development could be made. Nowadays, with many alternatives forms of transportation, the size of the roads does not imply the amount of transported goods or people. With the transportation system for deliveries moved to a different level than the transportation of people, it would make much more space for both to improve the capacity of the roads. One thing that bothers me, because transportation would be mostly made public such as trains, would this system be better for emergencies such as a place for an ambulance? Since life would take place above the ground and the transportation would be below, doesn't it make it harder to respond to such situations?

Do you think this project can make a big difference in improving the environment?
As goes for the environment, the elimination of cars and the reduction of toxic emissions would definitely improve not only the planet but the lives of people who live in that city. I really liked the idea that the city of the future would be the one where we live together with nature in symbiosis, and where people take more time to walk instead of driving to small distances. This will definitely positively influence the well being of this city's residents.
Jakub Łukowski said…
It is very interesting project; it is good to see that some innovations in the urban design are being planned and potentially implemented. I think that “The Line” could be the successful project, but probably it would be better to test this kind of design on the smaller scale. The long and narrow shape of the city makes sense, as it is simplification of the current wide, complex and chaotic architecture.

City without roads and cars would only make sense if there was other and better alternative. Looking at the picture in the article, it seems that in “Line” cars and roads would exist but separated on the different level.

It is hard to tell whether the project can make some environmental changes without knowing specific details of the design. It can certainly make a difference for the people living in it.
@Jakub Łukowski

Thank you Jakub for the answer. I share your opinion to test this project on a smaller area first.
Filip Bartuzi said…
Do you thing „The Line” project can be successful? Is it possible to build a long and narrow city that will function well?
Depending on how do you measure success in such projects. It sounds like proof of concept at this stage. Just building it would be called a success? Or keeping it profitable? Regardless, I'm very excited to hear about projects like this one. This could push the envelope in of how we imagine the city.

Do you think a city without roads and a car makes sense? What do you think about delivering things?


Yes! It sounds extremely exciting to me. I'm a big fan of public transportation, I dislike the idea that almost every single person owns a car in the city and they rarely use public transit. I wish cars would be completely banned from cities and we could change urban architecture.

Do you think this project can make a big difference in improving the environment?

Yes! I think the most fascinating thing in this project is building highly developed cities in very remote and currently inaccessible areas. I believe we are currently live in overcrowded cities and the land around it is not utilized efficiently. What about desert areas? Australia is huge, but major cities are placed in a small corner of the continent. To summarize, I'm very excited about this project and I hope it becomes a success in every possible measure
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