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Week 12 (8.06-14.06) Life outside of society

Throughout centuries there have always existed outcasts who had set aside norms and laws of the majority and lived their lives in isolation from the outside world. The feeling of dissatisfaction with the way they functioned inside the society has been their common trait. What drives people to run away? Is it a continuous process or a sudden impulse?  

Everyone has that urge to escape sometimes, it is hidden deep under  our sense of responsibility, our attachment to the surrounding world and our habit filled life. Still, we do not go to such extents. What causes it or what is different about them?

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The hermit
 This biblical term refers to a person living in a seclusion from society. It might appear to us that there are no longer any of them among us. Who would decide to abandon all of the luxuries that the civilization is giving us? Medicine, food, the internet? Still, some choose the way of solitude. Extreme introverts who could not live any longer among other people. Ones driven by their faith in god, others by their sense of miss belonging. Unable to fulfill roles given out by society. They run to the wilderness or hide in their homes to find peace and begin the search for meaning. 

The devoted man
Recently I watched a short documentary about Polish hermit – Grzegorz Kuc. The movie called “Ja pustelnik” gave me an insight into his world of meditation, prayer and calmness. After being thrown out of monastery, he continued his path of faith and served his God. I recommend to watch this documentary.

Grouch 
A term used in the late 50 to describe farmers, who were conquering the secluded regions of Chile. Faustino Barrientos for over 50 years has been living away from the civilization in one of the least polluted regions of Earth, the human deprived highlands of Patagonia. 

The genius
Grigory Pereleman – a mathematical genius. 
A man who turned down the one million prize offered by the Clay Mathematics Institute*. He hasn't shown up to accept any of the offered awards or trophies. He said: "I'm not interested in money or fame; I don't want to be on display like an animal in a zoo."  He lives with his elderly mother in a 2-bedroom flat in St. Petersburg. Are there many of us who would refuse fame and luxuries?

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 Society within
There are many groups that have stepped aside the society, opposed its norms and laws, began to strive in this world on their own. Some of them prosper and other struggle. Amish people are a good example of such behavior. They are traditionalists who avoid modern age achievements like electricity and motor engines. Known for their simple living and plain dressing, they are a very traditionalist Christian church fellowships group. Its estimated that there are almost 250.000 members of this society.


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Seclusion is not always a choice. There have been reports of people living in wilderness for decades in fear of justice system or oppressive governments, like in the case of Karp Lykov who together with his family of six lived in the forest of Syberia for over 40 years.

These is another interesting case of secluded societies – uncontacted peoples. Indigenous tribesmen who have been shut off from the rest of humanity by strange conditions, for example wars or particular set of coincidences. They are an object of great interest among many in western civilization. Much can be learned from observing them and understanding their way of life.

 Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit

Comments

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Unknown said…
I can't imagine living without civilization. I think we should protect uncontated people and their culture. Our contact with them could destroy them. If they don't want to be part of our civilization we shouldn't force them.
Their culture can be strange but I found it interesting and maybe we coud learn something from them.
People who are individuals living in isolation are the social norm since the dawn of history. It used to be determined due to the social status or disease. Nowadays it is very noticeable. Many people struggling with autism, which does not allow them to normal contacts with people. Other subjects included in the article are geniuses. This type of people who, because of the high level of IQ have a problem with assimilation into the society which seems to them insanely stupid.

Omitting outstanding cases when people willingly do not maintain relationships with others, the problem is the person eliminated from social life is not of their own volition. School children often face difficulties in contact with their peers.
Unknown said…
Same as Kasia I couldn't imagine living outside of civilization or society. I enjoy the country every now and then but I can't even imagine living in a small city. I like to have everything (shops, entertainment, art) around. I moved from the city suburbs (about 1,5 ride to the city center) about 6 month ago and I absolutely love having everything close and that I finally don't have to drive everywhere for so long.
Same as Kasia and Paulina I can't imagine living outside society and civilisation. Interaction with other people, modern technology and it benefits I think I would not make it without them. But I must admit, living in wilderess must have it benefits too - it is harder but simplier and closer to nature. However it is definitely not for me ;)
Same as Kasia and Paulina I can't imagine living outside society and civilisation. Interaction with other people, modern technology and it benefits I think I would not make it without them. But I must admit, living in wilderess must have it benefits too - it is harder but simplier and closer to nature. However it is definitely not for me ;)
Same as Kasia and Paulina I can't imagine living outside society and civilisation. Interaction with other people, modern technology and it benefits I think I would not make it without them. But I must admit, living in wilderess must have it benefits too - it is harder but simplier and closer to nature. However it is definitely not for me ;)
Unknown said…
People should accept hermits' choice, they shouldn't interfere into their lives. When I was searching informations about amishes, I found lots of different photos showing their everyday life. I'm curious about their reactions for "the foreigns". I hope photographers didn't treated them like the animals in the zoo...
Unknown said…
Exactly, solitude has many names. When loneliness is not our choice it can be the worst thing in the world.
Unknown said…
Life out of the society is very hard to psychical condition people. Some people as you wrote in the article were rejected by the rigourous rules which they did not comply but some people exist out of society because of his own accord. The best and most popular example are The Amish. The Amish are group of Christian Churchill fellowships. They share Swiss origins and they live simple, plain dress and reluctance to adopt many conviences of modern technology.
Michal Kulesza said…
Sometimes I think that I could move to the small village of my grandparents in Podlasie and live there among trees, not disturbing anyone only having my laptop and the only problem is there is no good internet connection.

But soon, I think that I will order satellite Internet and try to move, maybe after MSc?
My gradparents live in Odrynki, and there is living devoted man, orthodox catholic, they even have own website, but it's more like he was going to be expelled from church so he moved there - and people are travelling to meet him so he's not really living outside of society. If you would like to know more visit this website: http://skit.odrynki.pl/
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Unknown said…
Wll it depends how the photograher is profesional. A good one wouldn't do such thing.
Unknown said…
True that civilizations gives us everything, what we need. It's hard to understand, why some people decide to leave it all. Same as you, I will never abandon goods of 21st century :)
Unknown said…
For me, living without civilisation would be really hard. I think I would miss all of our technological and scientific achievements the most, especially Internet and medicine. I probably wouldn't miss interaction with other people - everything is ok as long as there is the Internet.
However, I think that spending a month outside of the society would be very refreshing experience.
Mateusz Frycie said…
There are days when I really think that moving into the wild is the best thing that can happen to you. I hate being in crowded places or being stuck in the traffic jam. What’s more I think that we are overflown with information, Internet news, posts, applications, Facebook comments. We do not respect other’s privacy and what is worse we do not respect our privacy, as we are posting photos, news, information about ourselves without thinking that one something is on the Internet it stays there forever. That is why when I have a bad day I am always thinking about moving into the wild and live there a peaceful and quiet life.
Unknown said…
Thank you for the interesting link. That's imposing that the tradition of hermitage is still continued. Just like you, I have close family on east side of country, close by border of Belarus. I love this region. I think there's something mystic in east confines, cause many cultures are united in one society, also landscapes are uncomparable to anything else.
Unknown said…
There are moments, for example after an exhausting week, when I want to escape everything and just sit in solitude in some wilderness or just move to a house in a rural area and live a simple life there. Yes, I don't like crowded places and the constant rush of a big city is tiresome for me sometimes, but I can't imagine living outside the society. I wouldn't want to leave my friends and family. And like Filip, I would have hard time without technology and the Internet (or any other information source) so I would need to bring a lot of things with me. :P
Even though I'm an introvert, I cannot imagine living outside of society. Of course, everyone has moments in their life when they want to be alone with the nature, and I do, too. However, it would be totally different in the long term. No friends, no family, no shops, not even things like cinemas or libraries or whatever... I would probably die of boredom!

The paragraph about Amishes reminded me of a documentary I've seen some time ago on Discovery Channel or TLC, about people who want to escape such religious societies and have really big trouble. Basically, the members of such society are watched over constantly, even at night there are neighbor patrols all over the village. It's especially hard for women, because in some religions polygamy is practiced (Mormons Church, for example), and they can't let the number of women decrease. Terrifying...
Unknown said…
You’re right that outcasts existed always. I’m sure that they not only existed in the past but they will exist in the future. Is it a continuous process or a sudden impulse? I think that it is an individual question. We should ask some outcasts this question. I think that they have the special personality - extreme other than typical person. I necessarily must watch “Ja pustelnik”. It may be amazing document.
When I’ve read your article more and more I think that this type of people exceed the higher level of existence than majority of us.
You’re right that seclusion is not always a choice. But can we do something with it? We probably don’t to have impact for it think.
Thanks for your great article. You choosed a great topic. Nobody have never befor raisen this subject.
Congrats.
To run away is an appealing option, sometimes there is just too much of problems to solve that abandon ships becomes one of options. Just after I finish this gd school I will probably leave all technology alone for some time, but not to the extent described above.

I don't get why Amish decided that the best point in human evolution was the latter half of the 19th century, but I'm able to understand people who left civilization to live by their own rules.

Behaviour of Gregory Perelman is quite common in the academic society. I've read about mathematician who broke algorithm behind the scratch card game and instead of using his secret to win, he passed the info to the manufacturer for free.
Unknown said…
I think that most of the people that decide to abandon the society are just simply cowards. Living between other people demand a lot of effort and impose the assumptive standards. It constricts us and reduce our freedom but that what life is. We have to accept it and find ourselves in this world, the ones that are too weak to do this, just run away. That what I see all of the outsiders. Everyone sometimes need to go away and take a deep breath, but in my case, it always ends up that I miss people after 3 or even fewer days.
Unknown said…
I can't imagine constant living outside society and civilisation. Of course it happens that sometimes I would like a few days to get away from all the problems and rest in isolation. But after a few days certainly I would miss the company of other people and all technologies which make my life easier.
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Unknown said…
Thank you! I had the similar impression considering hermits and their behavior. Those are the special personalities, more than us and out of human worldly affairs. The link below contains mentioned documentary movie. Have a nice watching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCXttNEwjCI
Sometimes it is nice to realx outside the culture, but I know I cannot live "outside". But doing so is not a bad nor good thing. It is just someone's way, someone's choice...
Unknown said…
I couldnt even imagine living without contact to other people, that would be so boring! Sometimes i wish to be left alone (especially when im sad/tired) but most of the time i like spending time with my friends :-) Thats what makes me happy
Marcin Lyzwa said…
The society of Amish is very interesting for me, they live in the past in modern world without any profits. For me, there's only one answer - tradition, thing that we don't have to understand.
Moving into the wild, to the Bieszczady sometimes is very, very interesting option. Sometimes I just need to take some rest and wildness far away from any civilization is blessing. When I was a kid I didn't understand how work could be so tiring, but today I know. But I can't imagine longer time without access to the Internet, medicine or other achievements of civilization.
Solitude is a part of our nature, we are socio-beasts but all in all we require being alone for a while to segregate our thoughts, contemplate and so on. It doesn't matter how we react with different people, how we treat them, how do we feel in various kinds of social groups, just everyone needs some privacy that should be highly tolerated!
Unknown said…
I don't imagine how can I live without society. I feel bad when I lonely. I like meeting with people. There is more fun, laugh, emotions, adventure. I draw inspiration from other people. People are an indispensable element of culture and life without culture, traditions is empty, without sense
Unknown said…
Here's a very cool album of phtos of some remote tribes, taken by Jimmy Nelson. http://imgur.com/gallery/1as1X I was always very interested in going someplace like this to see some of these remote cultures.
Sometimes I wish I lived someplace more distant from the society. All this noise makes me tired and irritated, even though I live in a countryside. The neighbours are noisy, there is always somebody talking or shouting in my house, the TV is constantly on. I can't wait till I go to Norway this summer, I am planning on seeing some very remote places there.
I think there is something from a loner in each one of us, but still we need some contact with other people. The best situation is the one in which we are not overwhelmed by the society and only interact with it when we want to.
Unknown said…
Great idea but due to the regionalization and globalization processes the world becomes too small and it becomes too difficult sometimes to refuse from the modern commodities. As for me I would like to live an outcast, but I don't know, maybe for day or two, or week. Well anyway sometimes every one needs a quite place to think without being bothered by people and technologies. And in such moments I realize how it is difficult nowadays just to turn off your cell-phone and I am not talking about the internet. It is pity but in some way we are all slaves of the modern technologies that are integrated in our life too deeply.
Unknown said…
To be honest, I would like to mobe away from the modern civilization but only when I accomplish something in my professional life. For now, I can't imagine not living in a bustling city such as Warsaw as I feel that I have a lot of opprtunities here. Buit when I'm older I hope to live closer to the nature and away from all this hustle and bustle.
Unknown said…
I sometimes wonder, how looked my life without civilization. Personally, I sometimes have the impression that I souls of all this electronics. For this reason, sometimes I like to go far away from civilization. Typically, it is only a few days of rest.
As a similar topic here is an article about a few different stories concerning Japanese soldiers that lived in seclusion in the Philippines or remote islands and didn't know that the WW2 ended for even 29 years!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/28/s
Unknown said…
Thank you for your link.

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