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[Week:9] 3d or not 3d

Do you realize that a big part of visual effects which we know from movies is still connected with lots of work with real models? 3D technique plays an essential role as far as deformations, disintegration of an object or complicated camera movements are concerned. Lots of unrealistic characters are still created by mixing recorded models and postproduction in the 3d technique.
First unrealistic monsters I've seen in a movie were characters from “Return of Jedi”.
What's interesting ,the same artists who created Muppets, created also Jabba character. A few actors were responsible for moving the Jabba's puppet huge body, just see the link below:


You may think that using puppets in movies is history, and you're not entirely right. The actors who animated puppets like Jabba or an Alien


are partly replaced by robots , like in “Pan's labyrinth” production :


or simply by 3d characters. But when you think about actors who give their moves to the 3d characters, or even about the 3d animators- aren't they playing the same role as puppeteers? Mocap – animated by an actor, is a 3d character still developing. Most of us know that technique because it was used in “Avatar” or “Lord of the Ring”. Let me show you a genius Mocap actor:


Questions:

1.Do you think that 3d will make other techniques used in visual effects disappear?
2.Do you know any interesting examples of “making of” visual effects? Please, present a link.

3.Do you know any interesting visual effect technique which wasn't recalled in the text?Please,describe it.

Comments

Unknown said…
So far we know 3D wasn't received well and even TV makers are pulling out of that business almost entirely. Most people prefer watching 2D movies over their 3D variants. I concur, I also don't like 3D and don't think it will replace other effects as we know it.
3D animation in the movies isn’t bad, but filmmakers must to use it wisely. Is know that the some special effects are impossible to do physically, so here comes for example motion – capture technique. This method has proven his price in “Lord of the Ring” and “Hobbit” movies, where without this we couldn’t be able to watch Gollum or Smaug (here it is a piece of acting by Benedict Cumberbatch and 3D animation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD1xoqUqxWQ).
As I said before, we cannot go too far with computer animation, because a spectator in time will see that he watching only an effects, but not acting by real actors. For example, I prefer in using real landscapes in the movies, but not rendered on greenscreen in studio depot, artificial background as we can see more often on screen. As I remember, the Character of Jabba the Hutt in “Star Wars the New Hope” was fully rendered and compared it to “Star Wars the Return of the Jedi” where was the big realistic puppet and it looking better than the first one.
Nowadays, unfortunately more and more directors moves to 3D and rarely we can see real sceneries and good acting without animation. The motion – capture technique are partly saving the movies, cause to making this kind of animation are need facial expression and movements of actor.
Kasia Kmieć said…
Nowadays movies are so overloaded with 3D that people admire even more everything that is handmade. It doesn't mean that 3D is less attractive than it was before, I just think that other techniques won't disappear. In the human history there is a whole circle of this tendency - for example from Renaissance to Baroque and then to Enlightenment or in the fashion where old trends find place in modern time. The best example that I can remember right now is the characterization of White Walker in "Game of Thrones" and than to fulfill his look were used visual effects and I think that combination - traditional and digital gives the best result: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlaAlH1LVgw
For me, 3D techniques are fantastic. Everything from film to film and from year to year are more and more beautiful . I don’t believe that people don’t’ like scene from “Avatar” or “ Lord of the Ring”. It was the most beautiful “cartoon” that I have ever seen. Unfortunately I don’t know the 3D techniques or any visual effects.
alt_pl said…
1.Do you think that 3d will make other techniques used in visual effects disappear?
Motion Capture is still one of the best ways to digitize muscle movement and human face. I don't believe in Avatar-style computer models not using real-life actors in most process.

2.Do you know any interesting examples of “making of” visual effects? Please, present a link.

It's good top 10 of bad CGI examples :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZlOn9V_MmE
and good ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WikszYku6A

3.Do you know any interesting visual effect technique which wasn't recalled in the text?Please,describe it.
These are not in my interests :) I am not a fan of 3d movies.
Unknown said…
"So far we know 3D wasn't received well and even TV makers are pulling out of that business almost entirely. Most people prefer watching 2D movies over their 3D variants. I concur, I also don't like 3D and don't think it will replace other effects as we know it." I think I will agree on that with Siomn. There was a BUM for 3D back in time (not so long time ago actualy). However this is the end of 3D at last for TV. I think that users found it unpracticle. I had a firnd with 3D TV who said that even he have posibbility to watch some movies in 3D, he prefers old 2D system. When i asked why would he .. he said that it is not good for eyes and there is a time limit he can watch 3D without feeling unconfortable.
Sylwia said…
I agree with Patryk, 3D animation can make movie unique and more influential but filmmakers must to use it wisely. Personally I think that most 3D movies I have seen shouldn’t be done in this technology, as it didn’t bring better quality to the movie. For me it was marketing trick to engage people for buying tickets. What’s more, I’m not sure if anyone of you have this feeling too, but after a watching long movie in 3D my eyes are so tired and hurts – that is way I often choose 2D version in cinema.
A movie has to be meant to be 3D, otherwise there is no sense in making it 3D - that's my opinion. I remembers seeing "A night in the museum" in IMAX and that was really, really great. The movie itself might not have been that good, but I will never forget the dinosaurs growling right in front of my face. The 3D effects in that movie were marvelous.
On the other hand I don't see why would we need to transform ALL movies in 3D - it won't make them any better. I hope 3D movies won't disappear, but I would like directors to come up with movies for 3D not just doing existing movies over and over again.
Unknown said…
Do you think that 3d will make other techniques used in visual effects disappear?
Unfortunately I think yes. Production houses are fighting for every spectator.
They will do anything to gain him. Only few directors still trying to do something other
using less popular technics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2igjYFojUo
2.Do you know any interesting examples of “making of” visual effects? Please, present a link.
This showreel:
http://vimeo.com/97143634
And this trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzCEdSKMkdU
3.Do you know any interesting visual effect technique which wasn't recalled in the text?
Not really.
Unknown said…
As far I can see all new movies are done in 3D which makes them mostly (computermade).
10 yeas ago most of the special effects where handmade by groups of peaple, now you can do same work by one person with requered skills to do so.
To summarize this whatch this video and think about it :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HgF4kq4j50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxVUT9N_LtQ

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